25-06-2021, 03:21
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Ben Shapiro debated this with someone 3 days ago.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3CmdFJtR4
I picked UK as the US is dominated by DEMS and its more than obvious since the election.....
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25-06-2021, 06:56
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Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
They're not the same parties. I think the U.S is much better for the type of Conservatism Shaprio promotes.
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25-06-2021, 07:42
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Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
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Originally Posted by Dude111
Ben Shapiro debated this with someone 3 days ago.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3CmdFJtR4
I picked UK as the US is dominated by DEMS and its more than obvious since the election..... |
You really have no idea. British conservatives are almost all committed to the very socialised health care your lot seem to think is a horseman of the apocalypse. Mainstream conservative thought in the UK is entirely different to the US on issues like the size and role of government and the limits of personal freedom in pursuit of a safe and cohesive society (note the near total ban on owning firearms here).
If your idea of hell is a country dominated by “Dems” then you’d hate it here, because conservative politics here is probably a better match for US Democrats than it is republicans.
We do of course have some Libertarian nut jobs here but there aren’t many of them and for the most part they reside, thankfully, on the lunatic fringe of British politics, and those of them in elected office generally don’t make too much noise.
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25-06-2021, 10:13
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Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
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Originally Posted by Dude111
Ben Shapiro debated this with someone 3 days ago.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3CmdFJtR4
I picked UK as the US is dominated by DEMS and its more than obvious since the election..... |
Ben Shapiro, the towering intellect who, when discussing Climate Change, said there wasn't a problem if you lived near the coast and rising waters threatened to put your house under water, it won’t be such a big deal “if the sea level rises five or ten metres” because people will just “sell their homes and move”....
https://www.indy100.com/news/ben-sha...median-8939886
How much do underwater houses sell for?
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You really have no idea. British conservatives are almost all committed to the very socialised health care your lot seem to think is a horseman of the apocalypse. Mainstream conservative thought in the UK is entirely different to the US on issues like the size and role of government and the limits of personal freedom in pursuit of a safe and cohesive society (note the near total ban on owning firearms here).
If your idea of hell is a country dominated by “Dems” then you’d hate it here, because conservative politics here is probably a better match for US Democrats than it is republicans.
We do of course have some Libertarian nut jobs here but there aren’t many of them and for the most part they reside, thankfully, on the lunatic fringe of British politics, and those of them in elected office generally don’t make too much noise.
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Yes, Ben accused Andrew Neil of being "of the left", which shows the complete different Overton Windows in both countries…
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26-06-2021, 02:31
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But generally I think your country is doing better Hugh in alot of ways!!!!!!
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26-06-2021, 10:50
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Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
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Originally Posted by Dude111
Ben Shapiro debated this with someone 3 days ago.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3CmdFJtR4
I picked UK as the US is dominated by DEMS and its more than obvious since the election..... |
Hmm the Dems who are in reality slightly to the Right of Thatcher. The US does not really do any LW politics.
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26-06-2021, 19:09
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Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
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Hmm the Dems who are in reality slightly to the Right of Thatcher. The US does not really do any LW politics.
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Not quite sure how you make that out. They started centrist but have migrated to left of centre. They are, frankly, all over the place. They reckon they are 'Democrats' (it says so on the can) and yet they campaigned on the basis that they would overturn the people's choice to go for Brexit. I don't see any right-wing policies at all - perhaps you can enlighten us.
It is fair to say that the only parties to support the people's preference were the Conservatives and UKIP.
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26-06-2021, 19:45
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Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
Personally I think the Conservatives would be best off in Somalia.
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26-06-2021, 20:11
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Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
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Personally I think the Conservatives would be best off in Somalia.
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Yes, Mr SunaK would soon get their budget sorted out so the people could actually get fed.
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26-06-2021, 21:05
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Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
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Yes, Mr SunaK would soon get their budget sorted out so the people could actually get fed.
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You will never see your preferred budget so I’d anticipate disappointment.
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26-06-2021, 21:26
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Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
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Personally I think the Conservatives would be best off in Somalia.
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Perhaps you would like to join them. 
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26-06-2021, 21:33
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Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
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I'm sure his 'allotment' skills would be quite beneficial . . although an over abundance of Rhubarb could introduce other problems 
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26-06-2021, 21:55
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Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
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Yes, Mr SunaK would soon get their budget sorted out so the people could actually get fed.
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Is that the Mr Sunak who borrowed another £24.3 billion last month, racking up a dept of £2.19 trillion, 99% of GDP, the highest ratio since 1962? If I didn't know better I'd swear the socialists were in charge..
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26-06-2021, 23:54
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Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
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Not quite sure how you make that out. They started centrist but have migrated to left of centre. They are, frankly, all over the place. They reckon they are 'Democrats' (it says so on the can) and yet they campaigned on the basis that they would overturn the people's choice to go for Brexit. I don't see any right-wing policies at all - perhaps you can enlighten us.
It is fair to say that the only parties to support the people's preference were the Conservatives and UKIP.
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Take the blue tinted specs off and read what's there, you're not sure how she made that out because she didn't make that out at all, your post bares no correlation to hers
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27-06-2021, 10:10
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Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
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Not quite sure how you make that out. They started centrist but have migrated to left of centre. They are, frankly, all over the place. They reckon they are 'Democrats' (it says so on the can) and yet they campaigned on the basis that they would overturn the people's choice to go for Brexit. I don't see any right-wing policies at all - perhaps you can enlighten us.
It is fair to say that the only parties to support the people's preference were the Conservatives and UKIP.
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Can you please provide a link to that?
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