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Old 15-06-2021, 19:24   #1
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Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

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Microsoft says it will stop supporting Windows 10 in 2025, as it prepares to unveil a major revamp of its Windows operating system later this month.

When Windows 10 was launched, Microsoft said it was intended to be the final version of the operating system.

But from 14 October 2025, there will be no new updates or security fixes for either the Home or Pro versions.

And Microsoft says its successor will represent one of the "most significant updates" to the OS in the past decade.

Its predecessor, Windows 7, was retired in 2020, although businesses could pay Microsoft to continue receiving updates for Windows 7 Professional and Windows 7 Enterprise.
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Old 15-06-2021, 19:27   #2
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

Microsoft says its successor will represent one of the "most significant updates" to the OS in the past decade

Debian or Fedora?

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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

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Microsoft says its successor will represent one of the "most significant updates" to the OS in the past decade
Thought they said they weren't issuing new versions of Windows any longer and just updating W10?. They must have had a profit warning...
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

so for support to end in 2025 that has to mean the new OS will be released next year ish. Hope they do free upgrades again
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

I thought Windows 10 was the final version?


I'm on Windows 8.1, I missed out on the free version, because in backing up it screwed up and I took ages to fix ix
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

possibly been leaked https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/15/2...ots-start-menu
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

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I thought Windows 10 was the final version?


I'm on Windows 8.1, I missed out on the free version, because in backing up it screwed up and I took ages to fix ix
Maybe Windows is ending, and it's a totally new OS called Doors !?
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

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I thought Windows 10 was the final version?


I'm on Windows 8.1, I missed out on the free version, because in backing up it screwed up and I took ages to fix ix
You haven't missed out, you can still get it from Microsoft. Still free.

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-d...ows-7-is-dead/
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

If they're doing a UI refresh of Windows I hope they don't just put another layer of UI on top of the existing one. It's bad enough that the more you drill down, the further you go back in Windows history with some dialog boxes looking unchanged from Windows 98.

This might also be a point where they are more aggressive in cutting out support for old hardware. 32 bit for example. Also, fully unified support for ARM processors and things that won't compile for both x86 and ARM could also be deprecated to enforce that. Microsoft will be concerned at what's happening at Apple with their M-series chips and can't afford for Windows to be left behind because their legacy support holds them back from successful pushes into ARM tables and laptops.

Obviously in that case they'll have two operating systems. Windows 10 for legacy and corporate environments and Windows 11 as a more consumer facing OS.

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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

So they are giving the kiddie OS a makeover ?

Heres an idea - go back to using the Windows XP inteface.
It was (and still is) by far the best, not the ridiculous kids lego blocks.
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

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If they're doing a UI refresh of Windows I hope they don't just put another layer of UI on top of the existing one. It's bad enough that the more you drill down, the further you go back in Windows history with some dialog boxes looking unchanged from Windows 98.
There has been doing on that on every major release. Mainly it's focused on the old Control Panel and moving elements to the modern 'Settings' area, but I think other elements have been moved and can imaging there will more of that in Windows 11.

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This might also be a point where they are more aggressive in cutting out support for old hardware. 32 bit for example.
Already done in part, but can't see that 32bit support for apps at aleast will be yet.
https://www.engadget.com/windows-10-...173055990.html

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Microsoft states that, “Beginning with Windows 10, version 2004, all new Windows 10 systems will be required to use 64-bit builds and Microsoft will no longer release 32-bit builds for OEM distribution.” In other words, any computer you buy in the future that has Windows 10 preloaded will be running the 64-bit version.
Windows only supports 64bit capable CPUs now anyway as far a I know and supported Intel chips only support Windows 10

https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/...rocessors.html

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Also, fully unified support for ARM processors and things that won't compile for both x86 and ARM could also be deprecated to enforce that. Microsoft will be concerned at what's happening at Apple with their M-series chips and can't afford for Windows to be left behind because their legacy support holds them back from successful pushes into ARM tables and laptops.
And I think that's this

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...oject-reunion/

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Project Reunion is a set of new developer components and tools that represent the next evolution in the Windows app development platform. Project Reunion provides a unified set of APIs and tools that can be used in a consistent way by any desktop app on a broad set of target Windows 10 OS versions.
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

They likely want to go subscription model where you have a thin client running locally and all the grunt done "on the cloud". You could have local storage and use of local graphics. Why sell O/S for £100 when you can rent it for £5 a month. No need for awkward updates and if people don't keep paying they lose access.


You could even have Linux locally to run the client. Or ChromeOS. Or Windows.
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

well so far the OS appears to be just Windows 10 with a new skin and a few new menus. But it is an early Beta. I am doubting there will not be a new kernel and therefore it will be more like Windows 10X than anything new and ground breaking.

Of course we know MS make their money from other products more than Window and I think tbh it will be offered as a free upgrade again. I feel all companies have to at least look like they are moving forward and not stagnant
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025

Be interesting to see what on premise enterprise support will be offered

Could this be the first to only be able to be managed by intune ? CM/SCCM/MECM (whichever you wish to call it) can't continue for ever
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