UK Timeline : X Factor : 2009

[Derek]

Woot!

I wonder how close it was?

Originally Posted by Derek S

Woot!

I wonder how close it was?

50,000 copies

[v0id]

Originally Posted by Damien

50,000 copies

really? It was only 9000 copies on Friday. That's on hell of days sales

The first download only Christmas number one though

[Arthurgray50@blu]

This is a total mockery of music in this day and age, whoever gets to that No1 spot should be down to cds sold in the shops, and not down to downloads,

When the shops close, obviously you are going to get more downloads and that will go onto win, that horrible song should NOT be No1, Christmas is a time for good music and the festive season, terrible result, but there again there was this internet war by stupid people who wanted revenge of reality shows.- people should grow up.

[Rockabilly Spike]

and a reality show should pre-determine the Xmas number one slot.

i dont care about Rage or the song (never liked it first time, thought it was childish) but anything that keeps X-factor off the top is fine with me.

fed up of these manufactured flybynight 15min popstars.

[Ben B]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This is a total mockery of music in this day and age, whoever gets to that No1 spot should be down to cds sold in the shops, and not down to downloads,

When the shops close, obviously you are going to get more downloads and that will go onto win, that horrible song should NOT be No1, Christmas is a time for good music and the festive season, terrible result, but there again there was this internet war by stupid people who wanted revenge of reality shows.- people should grow up.

Why should it only be down to CD sales? That would be stupid because why would people want to buy discs just to put them on their iPod and then put them away forever, at least if it's a download it's not a waste of buying a CD. The Climb is not a Christmas song, it's just some silly song from a Disney film, what gives that the right to be number 1 over any other song. Exactly, NOTHING!

[Peter_]

Absolutely brilliant news and a kickstart for commonsense maybe now the public will not be led like sheep by the Simon Cowell gravytrain.

Why should the battle for the Christmas Number One be left to whoever wins the X Factor, maybe this will stop this musical charade happening again.

I bought a copy of the Rage against the Machine single in the hope that it would win and it came up trumps.

If the is another X Factor aimed a Christmas next year then I will buy the rival track once again.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This is a total mockery of music in this day and age, whoever gets to that No1 spot should be down to cds sold in the shops, and not down to downloads,

The came arguement could have been applied to Vinyl and CDs.. There are still a lot of people around that don't consider CD to be a good medium for music (the reproduction is too cold and too clinical, apparently).

My own opinion is that while I don't think downloads are necessarily a good thing for the economy (local record shops did employ a *lot* of people, and have been hit hard by both the supermarkets and downloads), they are a valid way of determining what people like.

When the shops close, obviously you are going to get more downloads and that will go onto win, that horrible song should NOT be No1, Christmas is a time for good music and the festive season, terrible result, but there again there was this internet war by stupid people who wanted revenge of reality shows.- people should grow up.

Christmas isn't (and has never been, IMO) a time for good music. Even the so called classic christmas songs (Rockin around the christmas tree, Slade etc) are not actually good songs.

It's been known in the past for people releasing singles that may not be musically the best, but are often quite fun and at least vaguely linked to Christmas. Now it seems to have become a cash cow for Simon Cowell.

Sorry, but I don't buy that he isn't cashing in on Xmas. While he stated that the timing of the Xfactor final and single release is entirely co-incidental, I cannot believe that. TV schedules are planned in great detail and months ahead. He would have known months ago that the x factor was due to end around Christmas, and I'd be staggered if, as the owner of the rights to one of ITV's most watch programmes, he didn't have at least some say in when it started..

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Years ago, Christmas No1's were hit by a mad rush of groups and singers who tried there hardest to get that special spot, you could go to any record dept and buy the disc, and thats how it was determined.

And getting that spot was great, but now it has gone loopy, and all companies want to do is get revenge on the ITV show, what about the actual singer, or doesn't that count, its like not buying a record of Jami Cullam becuase he won the show on BBC. and look how famous he is now.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Years ago, Christmas No1's were hit by a mad rush of groups and singers who tried there hardest to get that special spot, you could go to any record dept and buy the disc, and thats how it was determined.

And getting that spot was great, but now it has gone loopy, and all companies want to do is get revenge on the ITV show, what about the actual singer, or doesn't that count, its like not buying a record of Jami Cullam becuase he won the show on BBC. and look how famous he is now.

Gone Loopy? Cowell has had it for the last 4 years! That destroyed the Christmas No 1 excitement until this year

[Hiroki]

Dunno what your getting so excited about Arthur as Joe will still have his 5 minutes of fame before he goes back to the dole queue.

And Rage will probably drop out of the charts next week since the point has been made.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This is a total mockery of music in this day and age, whoever gets to that No1 spot should be down to cds sold in the shops, and not down to downloads,

When the shops close, obviously you are going to get more downloads and that will go onto win, that horrible song should NOT be No1, Christmas is a time for good music and the festive season, terrible result, but there again there was this internet war by stupid people who wanted revenge of reality shows.- people should grow up.

Get with the times, Arthur!!

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by Moldova

Absolutely brilliant news and a kickstart for commonsense maybe now the public will not be led like sheep by the Simon Cowell gravytrain.

Why should the battle for the Christmas Number One be left to whoever wins the X Factor, maybe this will stop this musical charade happening again.

I bought a copy of the Rage against the Machine single in the hope that it would win and it came up trumps.

If the is another X Factor aimed a Christmas next year then I will buy the rival track once again.

another we agree on lol

well back off to finding a game on here i can get my 10 first places back with

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Years ago, Christmas No1's were hit by a mad rush of groups and singers who tried there hardest to get that special spot, you could go to any record dept and buy the disc, and thats how it was determined.

And getting that spot was great, but now it has gone loopy, and all companies want to do is get revenge on the ITV show, what about the actual singer, or doesn't that count, its like not buying a record of Jami Cullam becuase he won the show on BBC. and look how famous he is now.

Actually the song that won is an anti corporate protest song..It may not be Christmasy but I'd like to point out that very many of Christmas number ones of the past 50 years have not been anything to do with Christmas.

Everyone of the 5 Christmas hits the Beatles achieved had no reference to any Christmas elements what so ever and they are all classic rock songs.

Now it's not cost effective to go and buy a number 1 record.Vinyl has gone and not many want a CD for one single.Downloading one MP3 that you can replay on your PC or MP3 player is where technology has taken us.Cannot see anything wrong with that myself.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This is a total mockery of music in this day and age

Absolutely. Oh... you're not talking about The X Factor?