General : Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, this seems to confirm it.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...-yet-sky-news/

[EXTRACT]

“Sky is broadly indistinguishable from the BBC,” an industry source says. “Little wonder Rupert Murdoch is said to refer to it as ‘BBC-lite’.”

When he launched Sky News, Murdoch aimed to disrupt the BBC and reinforce his political influence. Auntie was forced to come out fighting. In 1997, it launched the rolling news channel, BBC News 24.

That quote does not support your unusual argument that Sky has a "woke obsession".

[Legendkiller2k]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

No, I just ask her what her last servant died of!

Listening to OBs fantasy predictions maybe?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

No, I just ask her what her last servant died of!

Backchat?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

That quote does not support your unusual argument that Sky has a "woke obsession".

Did I really say that? I thought I said the BBC had a woke obsession, or something along those lines.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Backchat?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Did I really say that? I thought I said the BBC had a woke obsession, or something along those lines.

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From yesterday, less than 24 hours ago...

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

It is a fact that Sky News is modelled on the BBC.

GB News has been created to defeat the woke obsession that too many parts of the media have embraced. That includes Sky News.

Your memory's going...

[Media Boy UK]

As posted on May 18th:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Apparently, Nat Geographic & Nat Geographic Wild are also due to close in the coming months.

RichardCoulter information now been confirmed by Media Boy Sources.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k

Listening to OBs fantasy predictions maybe?

If only….

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Your memory's going...

Ah, yes, I understand why I said that. It’s not as woke as the Beeb, though, to be fair.

[vincerooney]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

If only….

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Ah, yes, I understand why I said that. It’s not as woke as the Beeb, though, to be fair.

Sky News was owned by Murdoch for decades. He's like the anti wokeness. I really dislike the term "woke" its been way overused recently by the right wing press. Its really ironic that people on the left who complained a few years ago were called "snowflakes" now people on the right can complain about every little thing going on and they're not called "snowflakes" they're called "anti woke" its absurd.

If you want to accuse the bbc in general of having a liberal bias in its regular tv shows then i can completely 100% agree with you.

But BBC News being woke? What does that even mean?

Woke has become an insult used by opponents of movements such as Black Lives Matter, often to mock or belittle supporters of such causes.[69] Among American conservatives, the term is often used mockingly or sarcastically.[18] FiveThirtyEight's Perry Bacon Jr. writes that as of 2021, woke is mainly a pejorative used by centrists and conservatives to denote progressive politics that emphasize race or identity, often alongside the idea that critics of "woke" ideas are the victims of cancel culture.[7

How in any point has the BBC News become woke? The BBC News reports on black lives matters protests and certainly doesnt celebrate them. The BBC regularly reports on immigrants crossing the channel too? They are showing both sides?

As well as BBC news making Laura Kussenberg its head of politics as she keeps in contact with all the tory big brass and basically at times became the spokeswoman for the governments message as well as announcing hints at postal votes favouring the tories the day before THE ELECTION which definitely could have influenced people.

BBC News has also given a platform for people like Nigel Farrage and Lawrence Fox. Like Nigel Farage has never been elected to an office in this country and had some of the highest coverage of a political figure in the last ten years. How is the BBC woke?

The cambridge dictionary defines the term "woke" as:

aware, especially of social problems such as racism and inequality:
She urged young black people to stay woke.
disapproving He said that many of these so-called woke individuals never actually engage with the marginalized groups they claim to defend.

Whilst BBC News continues to give voices to people on the right who as a result have become household names. Also to the fact two of the Corporation’s leading politics programmes, the Daily Politics and The Sunday Politics, were both presented by Andrew Neil, who has also served as the Chairman of right of centre magazine, The Spectator.

To end with:

Other research has suggested that the BBC’s output may be weighted in favour of the right. Although over a decade old, a previous study by Cardiff University found the ratio of right-wing, establishment coverage to be significantly greater than left-wing viewpoints in both 2007 and 2012. Across both periods, Conservative politicians were featured around 50% more often than Labour politicians on the weekday bulletin BBC News at Six.

To summarise is the BBC bias to the left and "woke" in terms of its television output= I can see how people may think that myself with some of its entertainment and documentary output.

But the BBC News I would say definitely leans slightly to the right with Laura Kussenberg on board. Lets remember the infamous Jeremy Corbyn superimposed into Moscow with a russian hat on. Thats forgotten....imagine if the BBC had superimposed david cameron with a pig.

So can we stop just labelling bbc news as "woke" without giving some indication as to why you think the bbc is "woke". It just becomes a sort of strange chant now for anything people dont like "its too woke..." "its woke...." "wokkkkeeee" its almost like people are zombies. I could accuse people who say everything is woke are snowflakes but thankfully i don't get my latest buzz words to use in conversation from the dailymail! Its just lazy!

Feel free to criticise the BBC News but at least give rational behind it rather than parroting "its woke" without giving any facts or evidence. Myself i'm looking forward to the lollage GB News will bring as it'll be like a slow moving car wreck but I'll always switch to BBC News for the sudden death of elder statesmen and the outrage of the wrong colour ties reverting to the polar opposite of "too much coverage" for phil.

[Derekb108]

Originally Posted by Media Boy

As posted on May 18th:



RichardCoulter information now been confirmed by Media Boy Sources.

Are those channels going on Disney+ ?

Disney is really becoming disproportionate to being closed off to only SKY, as there's quite a lot of channels gone to their own Demand platform.... it was about time Disney+ came to Virgin their exclusivity should come to an end

[Legendkiller2k]

Originally Posted by Derekb108

is those channels going on Disney+ ?

Disney is really becoming disproportionate to being closed off to only SKY, as there's quite a lot of channels gone to their own Demand platform.... it was about time Disney+ came to Virgin their exclusivity should come to an end

The plan is all Disney owned content will be on Disney+ including Nat geo stuff.
Disney+ is available on many devices yes it's nice having it on you stb but often you get more options with apps via a dedicated streaming device aka Roku, Firetv, Nvidia shield, google tv etc with no need to pay a monthly rental fee for the device.
You do pay a rental fee btw for vm, bt, sky devices over the term of your contract and beyond if you keep the services.

[epsilon]

Originally Posted by vincerooney

imagine if the BBC had superimposed david cameron with a pig.

A good post. I think we're all thankful they didn't expose us to that image.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by 1701-e

Yes Richard.. black continuity announcers. What next... Disabled people on screen? FFS wise up

There are black Continuity Announcers that do the job correctly, there's one on Radio 4 that is very good. The black newsreader on BBC News is very good too.

I'm talking about the CA that wouldn't sound out of place saying "This is BBC1 innit bro". It's absolutely vile to hear and has no place on national television.

There are occasionally disabled people on screen and this is good as it helps to normalise disability. However, I would be the first to complain if almost every programme was about disabled issues or if programmes were suddenly stuffed with disabled people to the point of misrepresentation.

This wouldn't do anything for disabled people, in fact it would damage the progress made thus far as the current BBC obsession with everything black is doing.

I have always been a general supporter of the BBC, but it's now getting to the stage where I can no longer listen to this propoganda being shoved down my throat. I actually enjoy the odd programme highlighting black issues as these are both informative & educational, but this is no longer tolerable and for the first time i'm considering cancelling my TV licence.

[ozsat]

I have no problem with anybody doing anyjob no matter what the race, colour, disability, gender, etc.

What I think is wrong is somebody getting a job because they are needed to fulfil a 'quota' rather than they are best for job.

It could be that all continuity announcers are black - because thet all were the best applicants. But then it could be there are all white for the same reason.

If you are offering 20 jobs - then it would be wrong that one or two people have to be taken on to fill a quota when two other better qualified people will loose out.

If we are all equal - then putting too many specialised presenters / programmes out - is making some more equal than others. BBC are very good at that mis-match.

I no longer watch BBC News unless they are covering some major live criminal event - or sports news.

Let's stick to the topic which isn't about wokeness or racism but about changes to Virgin TV programming.

[johnasimmons]

Originally Posted by Maggy

Let's stick to the topic which isn't about wokeness or racism but about changes to Virgin TV programming.