Coronavirus

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Pierre

The NHS doesn’t need saving. If the NHS is not under pressure - which it isn’t, and deaths remain low - which they are.

Then there is no need to change course.

No no Pierre, you need to look long term and the 'risk' of things becoming worse.
I've taken it all on board, listened to the arguments about risking thousands of lives because I didn't take the necessary precautions, and acted upon it.

I went to the doctors yesterday asking to be vaccinated from catching Malaria, Typhoid, Ebola and Rabies . . because when you look deep enough I could, maybe, possibly, there's a slight chance, catch it from someone.

To be fair the doctor told me to grow a pair . . in fact he got quite annoyed and kicked me out when I mentioned Black Death

tsk tsk, sometimes I think even the experts aren't listening

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Sorry to shock you, but I (mostly) agree with you.

Except for (2) - how do we/the country manage a local lockdown without martial law? We keep being told by HMG to use "common sense", but, as we’ve seen, it’s not that common…

I really did mean (2). We have resources to lock down these areas, but really do that because it is obvious to me that there is leakage as people move around. Why else are 4 wards of Wokingham showing unusual Delta variant activity? Of course we may be in a stable door situation now - i.e. it's too late.

Keep up our new relationship!

Originally Posted by pip08456

You have a link for that or are you just making it up? As we have been told ad nauseam the reason for lockdowns was to flatten the curve (when it was already heading down) to protect the NHS. Never once has prevention or reduction in mutation been mentioned.

Sorry, don't have a link, as it was based on conversations last year with ex-colleagues who are researchers in a University Faculty of Biological Sciences.

On an unrelated note, they did recommend chlorpromazine to reduce bile production - have you considered it?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Sorry, don't have a link, as it was based on conversations last year with ex-colleagues who are researchers in a University Faculty of Biological Sciences.

On an unrelated note, they did recommend chlorpromazine to reduce bile production - have you considered it?

Have you tried Senokot?

Originally Posted by jfman

Once more I extend my sympathies, Seph.

Stay home. Protect the NHS. Save lives.

Either you are stuck in the past, or just trolling (I know which I think ).

We are a long way past needing to stay at home, and the NHS is not in need of protecting anymore.

Total deaths in the UK are now below the 5 year average, and covid is not the biggest killer.

Originally Posted by ONS

The number of deaths registered in the UK in the week ending 21 May 2021 was 11,214, which was 328 fewer than the five-year average, 115 involved COVID-19.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

Once more I extend my sympathies, Seph.

Stay home. Protect the NHS. Save lives.

Are you a robot?

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Originally Posted by Mr K

And if one of your nearest and dearest succumbed to one of the variants no doubt you'd feel differently and demand to know why we'd been so lax in the face of rising infections.

No, I wouldn’t be so ridiculous. Some people always look for someone to blame. As I keep saying, the most vulnerable have been vaccinated and we are rapidly vaccinating the less vulnerable age groups now, who in the first two waves tended not to be hospitalised.

The number of hospital admissions of people with Covid remain very low. There's no reason now not to lift the remaining restrictions.

I didn’t go for my two jabs only to be told that further lockdowns had to be imposed ‘just in case’. There would have been no point in inoculating people on such a grand scale if it was going to make no difference.

Covid is no longer the main reason for severe illness and deaths. We need to get this into proportion,and stop panicking, Mr Mainwaring.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Paul

Either you are stuck in the past, or just trolling (I know which I think ).

We are a long way past needing to stay at home, and the NHS is not in need of protecting anymore.

Total deaths in the UK are now below the 5 year average, and covid is not the biggest killer.

I'm neither stuck in the past, nor trolling. Okay stay home was perhaps a playful jibe I'll accept that.

There's a long way to go before normal however, we can only hope we don't need to go backwards.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

OB's contempt for the key worker plebs who work in retail knows no bounds.

I have not said anything about retail workers. You just love introducing irrelevant stuff and arguments people haven’t made when you respond to posts.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I have not said anything about retail workers. You just love introducing irrelevant stuff and arguments people haven’t made when you respond to posts.

I'd worry more about your local situation than some bloke on the internet OB. It's precarious out there. Hopefully we can ease restrictions near the end of July.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

I'm neither stuck in the past, nor trolling. Okay stay home was perhaps a playful jibe I'll accept that.

There's a long way to go before normal however, we can only hope we don't need to go backwards.

You could have fooled me.

As for your ‘long way to go’ comment, clearly the scientists will need to stay on the ball in monitoring this virus, but for the rest of us, normal life will resume. I don’t expect the sky to fall in.

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Originally Posted by jfman

I'd worry more about your local situation than some bloke on the internet OB. It's precarious out there. Hopefully we can ease restrictions near the end of July.

Listen to yourself! Do you actually believe all this stuff you are saying?

And…do I seem bovvered?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You could have fooled me.

As for your ‘long way to go’ comment, clearly the scientists will need to stay on the ball in monitoring this virus, but for the rest of us, normal life will resume. I don’t expect the sky to fall in.

Well with the best will in the world you have been wrong before, on more than one occasion. June 22 is in the bin. Better adjust to the new normal.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You could have fooled me.

As for your ‘long way to go’ comment, clearly the scientists will need to stay on the ball in monitoring this virus, but for the rest of us, normal life will resume. I don’t expect the sky to fall in.

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Listen to yourself! Do you actually believe all this stuff you are saying?

And…do I seem bovvered?

Yeah!

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Yeah!

Ever so slightly

[OLD BOY]

From the Telegraph today:

Health Secretary Matt Hancock told reporters yesterday that Government "always expected cases to rise" as lockdown was eased, and said that the data which is being watched "very carefully" relates to hospital admissions.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

From the Telegraph today:

Health Secretary Matt Hancock told reporters yesterday that Government "always expected cases to rise" as lockdown was eased, and said that the data which is being watched "very carefully" relates to hospital admissions.

Government in bland reassuring statement release shocker.

Doesn't matter what they say it matters what they do, and June 22 is toast. As a consolation to those on the thread I'm no longer going to engage in chat around June 22.

You know it's done. Pierre knows it's done. When you want to let go of the far end of the narrowest straws and engage constructively on the future of Covid I look forward to it. However between now and June 22 debating a meaningless deadline that's already redundant is pointless.