Coronavirus

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Got to keep the fear going, India’s gonna get you. Stay scared! Stay home.

Circle the waggons the injuns is a coming

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Circle the waggons the injuns is a coming

The R number is rising. Least this will be a good test for the vaccines. Lets hope they really are effective

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

The R number is rising. Least this will be a good test for the vaccines. Lets hope they really are effective

I think it's all a plot to ruin my 65th birthday which is on 22 June, the day after lifting of restrictions.
i don't foresee any major problems as i'm having the party at the gun club.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

The R number is rising. Least this will be a good test for the vaccines. Lets hope they really are effective

I'm interested in the rationale to reduce the period from 12 to 8 weeks between vaccination when previously the logic was it makes more sense to give more people some kind of vaccine.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

I'm interested in the rationale to reduce the period from 12 to 8 weeks between vaccination when previously the logic was it makes more sense to give more people some kind of vaccine.

Quoting “logic” and “rationale” when trying fathom the governments actions during this pandemic is the most contradictory of contradictions

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

I'm interested in the rationale to reduce the period from 12 to 8 weeks between vaccination when previously the logic was it makes more sense to give more people some kind of vaccine.

If there's a correlation between having one injection and voting for the political party you associate with that injection, then I can see the political rationale for a wider roll-out reduces post election.

[nomadking]

The R number is distorted by the fact that the main group spreading this new variant, is also one of the groups [selfishly] insisting on not getting vaccinated or sticking to any rules. The amount of spreading will inevitably be higher amongst such groups, and doesn't represent the population as a whole.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by nomadking

The R number is distorted by the fact that the main group spreading this new variant, is also one of the groups [selfishly] insisting on not getting vaccinated or sticking to any rules. The amount of spreading will inevitably be higher amongst such groups, and doesn't represent the population as a whole.

*awaits posts defending the indefensible - ie 'incapable of being justified or excused'

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by jfman

I'm interested in the rationale to reduce the period from 12 to 8 weeks between vaccination when previously the logic was it makes more sense to give more people some kind of vaccine.

The difference in efficacy between one and two doses is turning out to be wider in real-life than it was in trials (they only used a 3 week gap in trials). Most 40-somethings have now had their first dose, so I presume they have calculated giving the over-50s their second dose early is more beneficial than starting on the 30-somethings.

This is despite a 12-week gap probably being more effective than an 8-week one. I suspect dose #3 will be along fairly soon after to make up the difference.

Stop it, you’re spoiling his conspiracy theory

[jfman]

I keep forgetting the Government is always right, even when it contradicts itself.

As I’ve said before ... following the science is a real kicker, isn’t it ...

[jfman]

Easier to do when they're on payroll.

Actually, rather harder in an emerging situation when risk and reward are hard to calculate and unlikely to be static. The 12-week policy is by now self evidently the right thing to have done at the time. I see no reason to think the policy formation process is suddenly malfunctioning now. I get that really messes with your “Boris Bad” world view, but facts are facts, and the UK’s vaccination policy is still looking sound, after almost 6 months intense operation.

[jfman]

It's not a "Boris bad" world view - the only thing self evident is that they are cherry picking "the science" to suit their needs.

Whether the UK vaccination policy is a success or otherwise remains to be seen, as Boris himself acknowledges the significant reduction in cases, hospitalisations and deaths are largely attributable to lockdown.

60 million Pfizer vaccines for the Autumn doesn't sound like a massive vote of confidence in the existing strategy.

The 17 day delay in redlisting India (compared to Pakistan) is presumably another success story for the Government.