VOD : Netflix/Streaming Services

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk

All this about advertisements seems to me to support the current practice of recording your preferences off linear TV and then fast forwarding through the bits you don't want

Exactly, another reason not to bother with these commercial streaming things. Only streaming app I use is iPlayer, where it's not an issue. God bless the BBC , I would gladly give them my kidneys, well one of them anyway

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Exactly, another reason not to bother with these commercial streaming things. Only streaming app I use is iPlayer, where it's not an issue. God bless the BBC , I would gladly give them my kidneys, well one of them anyway

It's certainly a reason not to use the ITV Hub and All 4.

[heero_yuy]

Quote from Chris:


And I absolutely loathe anything unskippable on a DVD that I’ve just paid for.

That is a DVD that gets ripped and re-formatted or the content put on my media server.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

That depends on how many of those carriage deals remain in place and how much material Discovery possesses which will not be covered by such deals in a couple of years' time.

You will be aware that Netflix in the US has a bigger library than we have access to in the UK simply because a proportion of that content is not for showing in the UK. Given that carriage deals typically last 4 or 5 years and that Discovery would have been planning this for a while, I would be surprised if such rights were much of an issue by 2021.

So Netflix has a huge library of content, the kind people might wait 30 or 60 seconds to watch? Your statements are inherently contradictory.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

So Netflix has a huge library of content, the kind people might wait 30 or 60 seconds to watch? Your statements are inherently contradictory.

What? Your posts are becoming increasingly bizarre! I have not said anything contradictory but I’m becoming concerned that you are having perception issues.

Please explain the ‘contradictions’ to prove me wrong. Or just let it rest.

[OLD BOY]

If I am reading this correctly, the three strands of the new Disney+ service including Hulu will be launched internationally at some point. I dare say there are quite a few rights issues to be sorted out as far as Hulu is concerned so it may be we don't get this from launch.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019...criber-growth/

Although Hulu remains primarily a US-focus service, Disney has said it has wider international ambitions for the streamer as part of its broader three-pronged streaming strategy centred on the new Disney+ offering, sports service ESPN+ and Hulu.

It also appears that it will be tough going for Apple+ as well. Without the 'must have' content, they will not get the subscribers.

https://www.rapidtvnews.com/20190503...#axzz5mwpK98yf

However, while the Apple TV+ SVOD will offer an exclusive home for its originals, it faces big headwinds in the form of Apple’s limited investment in original programming compared to others and a small catalogue; a glut of original programming on competing services; an uneasy relationship with studios and programmers; subscription fatigue on the part of consumers; and the potential for brand confusion.

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A free ad-supported version of Amazon may be coming to the UK.

https://www.ukairdates.com/amazons-f...-be-coming-uk/

[Horizon]

I think I've said this before but Disney's boss, Bob Iger, also sits on the board of Apple. If Apple wants more content and as a trillion dollar company, there seems a obvious solution here...

And I think that Disney's three pronged approach is a mistake. Disney should just have one streaming service, not try and replicate in the streaming world, what is has in the linear world with multiple services.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Horizon

I think I've said this before but Disney's boss, Bob Iger, also sits on the board of Apple. If Apple wants more content and as a trillion dollar company, there seems a obvious solution here...

And I think that Disney's three pronged approach is a mistake. Disney should just have one streaming service, not try and replicate in the streaming world, what is has in the linear world with multiple services.

I'm not sure, Horizon. If Disney had three strands it could maximise the number of subscribers to the service.

For example, if Hulu was included, I would subscribe, as would many other adults who want scripted services.. If sport was included, that would increase subscriptions substantially.

If they concentrate on kids' stuff, they are restricting their audience. Why would they do this with all that content at their disposal?

[muppetman11]

You keep saying Sports do enlighten us to what these are likely to be in the UK ?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

You keep saying Sports do enlighten us to what these are likely to be in the UK ?

Tiddlywinks l hear..

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by oliver1948uk

All this about advertisements seems to me to support the current practice of recording your preferences off linear TV and then fast forwarding through the bits you don't want

I quite agree, however according to OB we won't have that choice as linear TV will cease to exist!

Strange he is quite vocal against ads on streaming, something that will be required to keep the costs down.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

You keep saying Sports do enlighten us to what these are likely to be in the UK ?

I'm only drawing attention to what the reports are saying. You have read them for yourself.

They appear to be indicating that the sport will be provided by ESPN, so I guess it depends on the rights they acquire to show sport events in the UK. It may be that the days of ESPN Sport on BT are numbered, but a glance at their schedules will tell you what they are able to show at the present time. Expect that to be beefed up for the new service.

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Originally Posted by Raider999

I quite agree, however according to OB we won't have that choice as linear TV will cease to exist!

Strange he is quite vocal against ads on streaming, something that will be required to keep the costs down.

It's not only me. The addition of unskippable advertisements to subscription services will reduce the number of subscriptions coming in.

The way to maximise income is to give viewers the choice between a lower cost or free service with ads, or alternatively a full subscription without. That ensures inclusivity as well, which is a good thing.

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A new streaming service has launched in the UK - History Play. We are starting to see the various genres that have not been covered by the SVOD services to date come to pass now.

The new service will cost £3.99 per month.

https://tbivision.com/2019/05/03/his...azon-channels/

History Play adds an incredible line up of ground-breaking stories across different areas of history, to the wide selection of entertainment we offer customers through Prime Video Channels in the UK, Germany and Austria,” said Julian Monaghan, European MD of Channels at Amazon Prime Video.

[jfman]

Existing pay-tv channels could operate on an ad-free basis yet almost all of them do not.

The sports rights issue goes back to ability to turn a profit (as yet unproven).

What makes streaming exempt from basic economic realities?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

Existing pay-tv channels could operate on an ad-free basis yet almost all of them do not.

The sports rights issue goes back to ability to turn a profit (as yet unproven).

What makes streaming exempt from basic economic realities?

I have already explained to you that you can have an option with ads and an option without ads. The models used by traditional pay tv companies are irrelevant and SVOD services are already offering subscription only access. They operate on a global, not a local basis and can therefore offer economies of scale.

Moving on, Netflix is now offering better sound to their top notch subscribers.

http://www.csimagazine.com/csi/Netfl...experience.php

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I have already explained to you that you can have an option with ads and an option without ads. The models used by traditional pay tv companies is irrelevant and SVOD services are already offering subscription only access. They operate on a global, not a local basis and can therefore offer economies of scale.

Moving on, Netflix is now offering better sound to their top notch subscribers.

http://www.csimagazine.com/csi/Netfl...experience.php

Comcast, Liberty Global don’t operate on a global scale? Where have you been coming up with this?