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Old 05-12-2021, 17:24   #241
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Re: Coronavirus

Nothing new going on in this thread apart from the usual so called point scoring
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.... against the wishes of Britain’s greatest behavioural scientists....
What do behavioural scientists know about vaccines and viruses?
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Old 05-12-2021, 21:19   #243
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Bless, still stuck in mid-2020.

You’ll get there eventually. If Covid doesn’t get you first.
We didn’t have vaccinations until very late in 2020, so I’m not sure I understand your point.

Currently, infections remain high and hospitalisations remain low and falling. That’s due to the vaccination programme.
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Old 05-12-2021, 23:29   #244
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Managed to get my booster at a walk-in clinic, fed up of waiting the NHS website to open it up a week after the Government said everyone should get it.
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Old 06-12-2021, 09:52   #245
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Managed to get my booster at a walk-in clinic, fed up of waiting the NHS website to open it up a week after the Government said everyone should get it.
Should get it is an arse covering term with no guarantee you will get it
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Old 06-12-2021, 10:03   #246
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Should get it is an arse covering term with no guarantee you will get it
Hit the gin early this morning ?
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Old 06-12-2021, 12:39   #247
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We didn’t have vaccinations until very late in 2020, so I’m not sure I understand your point.

Currently, infections remain high and hospitalisations remain low and falling. That’s due to the vaccination programme.
over 90% of the population have COVID antibodies.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...hts/antibodies
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over 90% of the population have COVID antibodies.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...hts/antibodies
You've misread it, Pierre. It's over 90% of adults, not over 90% of the population.
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You've misread it, Pierre. It's over 90% of adults, not over 90% of the population.
close enough for me.
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close enough for me.
Don't get why you think that!

If 74% of the UK population are adult and 90%+ vaccinated, then the vaccination rate for the UK population is over 70% not over 90% as you claimed.
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Don't get why you think that!

If 74% of the UK population are adult and 90%+ vaccinated, then the vaccination rate for the UK population is over 70% not over 90% as you claimed.
Yes, but as COVID in the main affects adults with severe illness and not children (and we're not even vaccinating U12's).

Then it's a very high %.

we should rejoice, no need for lockdowns or other measures with %'s that high.
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Stay at home if you have a cold this Christmas, says professor
People with cold-like symptoms should work from home and avoid Christmas parties in a bid to stem the spread of coronavirus, according to Tim Spector, from the COVID Zoe app.

The professor of genetic epidemiology at King's College London told Times Radio the UK should be "much more open-minded about who we are testing" and "get more people to isolate at least for a few days with cold-like symptoms".

"At the moment, we're estimating that somewhere between one and three and one in four colds are actually due to COVID," he said.

"And so that's quite a high rate of people that are currently not even bothered to get a lateral flow test, or getting a PCR test, going to parties and spreading it around.

"So if that transfers to Omicron then we're going to be compiling that problem much faster than we would need to."

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...dates-12469075
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Stay at home if you have a cold this Christmas, says professor
People with cold-like symptoms should work from home and avoid Christmas parties in a bid to stem the spread of coronavirus, according to Tim Spector, from the COVID Zoe app.

The professor of genetic epidemiology at King's College London told Times Radio the UK should be "much more open-minded about who we are testing" and "get more people to isolate at least for a few days with cold-like symptoms".

"At the moment, we're estimating that somewhere between one and three and one in four colds are actually due to COVID," he said.

"And so that's quite a high rate of people that are currently not even bothered to get a lateral flow test, or getting a PCR test, going to parties and spreading it around.

"So if that transfers to Omicron then we're going to be compiling that problem much faster than we would need to."

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...dates-12469075

. . and as the Omicron symptoms - up to now - are believed to be quite mild, that's what's going to happen.
Having said that, how many of us ever did take a test for a tickly cough and sore throat?
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close enough for me.
And it’s irrelevant against Omicron. Over 80% of Gauteng are believed to have been infected in previous waves, with some now on their third bount of Covid. Excellent news for the Great Barringtons among us that “natural immunity” isn’t immunity at all. The evidence was also showing substantial waning of vaccine efficacy against Delta so that has inevitable consequences.

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Yes, but as COVID in the main affects adults with severe illness and not children (and we're not even vaccinating U12's).

Then it's a very high %.

we should rejoice, no need for lockdowns or other measures with %'s that high.
I’m not sure hoteliers and restaurant owners can pay the bills with your rejoice from the safety of sitting at your keyboard.

Once again your opposition to any restrictions is ideological and not grounded in any evidence whatsoever.

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And it’s irrelevant against Omicron. Over 80% of Gauteng are believed to have been infected in previous waves, with some now on their third bount of Covid.
Happy to read your source.

However, all the news stories I can find on Omicron all trace back to this one paper:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...068v2.full.pdf

Where a study of 2.8m people previously infected found that 35,670 had been reinfected. A whopping 1.27%

There is no real data on whether Omicron can evade current vaccines, or the severity of illness

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Excellent news for the Great Barringtons among us that “natural immunity” isn’t immunity at all. The evidence was also showing substantial waning of vaccine efficacy against Delta so that has inevitable consequences.
I don't know about "substantial" but isn't that why we're having boosters anyway?

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I’m not sure hoteliers and restaurant owners can pay the bills with your rejoice from the safety of sitting at your keyboard.
Oh. well I spent a lovely week in Bridgnorth last week, and I've been to the pub for a steak dinner pretty much every week for several months, so I've been doing my bit for the hoteliers and landlords.

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Once again your opposition to any restrictions is ideological and not grounded in any evidence whatsoever.
And things are going so well in Australia, New Zealand and Europe. Yes, restrictions are the answer................

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Having said that, how many of us ever did take a test for a tickly cough and sore throat?
There's a few that should take a mental competency test.
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