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Old 29-05-2019, 11:15   #931
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle

Brexit is a single issue party so when we have Brexit they will likely go and the support go back to the Tory/Labour parties. It's up to those two groups of children to play nice else that support may not return.
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Old 29-05-2019, 15:26   #932
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle

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Odd isn't it, Ally Campbell can be booted out in 24hrs for the crime of voting liberal but the Jew haters seemingly can't be booted after what is now many months of waiting
Not really strange. It simply shows that Labour is doing the absolute minimum in an effort to have people believe that it is doing something about anti-Semitism.
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Old 29-05-2019, 19:47   #933
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If I were any of these expelled, whip withdrawn, Labour/Tory politicians, I would take my bat and ball and go to the Lib Dems. After all they are a bigger party according to the EU election results.
And the Brexit party are even bigger according to those results. Joining the Brexit party also has the advantage of it being the recipient of a lot of natural working class Labour votes, so they’ll be in good company.
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Old 29-05-2019, 22:30   #934
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle

No one can join the Brexit Party (become a member with a vote on policies or elect/select officers or MPs/MEPs), they can only register to be "supporters".

Different structure from other British political parties.
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Old 31-05-2019, 14:52   #935
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle

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Labour executive member Pete Willsman has been suspended from the party after he was caught on camera blaming the party's anti-Semitism crisis on the Israeli embassy.

In a leaked recording obtained by LBC Radio, Mr Willsman said the storm in the party was "all lies" and claimed party staffers were "linked" to the Israeli embassy.
Another one bites the dust.
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Another one bites the dust.
So, suspended if you do that but expelled if you admit to voting for another party. The Labour Party have had plenty of time to improve their governance but have failed to do so.
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Another one bites the dust.
Not the first time he's said this crap either or been caught doing it, iirc he's already been suspended for this
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle

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Top Labour MPs today slammed their latest addition to the Commons over controversial comments she liked about "Zionism Masters".

Lisa Forbes faced a hostile reception from her new colleagues in Parliament who warn the party is turning a blind eye to anti-Semitism.

She won the seat of Peterborough last night by just 600 votes - putting Nigel Farage's Brexit Party into second place.

But Birmingham MP Jess Phillips said this morning: "The reality is I cannot be gleeful or proud as I'd want to be because of how it shows that antisemitism is becoming normal in the party.

"Lisa ignored and endorsed anti-Semitic things, I'll take her explanation and apology at face value & look forward to her proving as others have that actions not excuses alone can heal.
Didn't take long for that victory to turn sour.
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle

Top Labour figures 'interfered' in anti-Semitism disputes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48929244

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Senior Labour figures have interfered in the disciplinary process of dealing with accusations of anti-Semitism, ex-party officials have told the BBC's Panorama.
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Watch as nothing happens. It's depressing. Unless Panorama have something so impossible to dismiss and ignore then they'll just attack the BBC and blame everyone else.
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Watch as nothing happens. It's depressing. Unless Panorama have something so impossible to dismiss and ignore then they'll just attack the BBC and blame everyone else.
They just seem to pay lip service to it all.
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Watch as nothing happens. It's depressing. Unless Panorama have something so impossible to dismiss and ignore then they'll just attack the BBC and blame everyone else.
They’ll do that anyway. Labour’s inaction here is beyond parody. I hope Ed Miliband is feeling suitably chastised; it was his membership rule changes that allowed the hard-left entryist nutcases into the party. They’re the ones who elected Corbyn, they’re the ones attempting to deselect moderate centre left sitting MPs in favour of Momentum fanatics and they’re the ones that think the world is subject to a massive Zionist conspiracy for which all Jews are supposedly somehow culpable.
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They’ll do that anyway. Labour’s inaction here is beyond parody. I hope Ed Miliband is feeling suitably chastised; it was his membership rule changes that allowed the hard-left entryist nutcases into the party. They’re the ones who elected Corbyn, they’re the ones attempting to deselect moderate centre left sitting MPs in favour of Momentum fanatics and they’re the ones that think the world is subject to a massive Zionist conspiracy for which all Jews are supposedly somehow culpable.
Yeah, I know but I would have at least liked them to be made to squirm a bit harder. For it to at least cause some conflict within themselves. The outright anti-semites like Williamson will never, ever, change but I think there is another group who might at least a pause.

I think the documentary nailed why this does happen - they think they're 'anti-racists' so cannot be racist. As if racist is a binary thing which you either are or are not.

I don't think they had any smoking-gun unfourtly. The testimony from former staffers were damning but Corbyn's outriders have already decided everyone is lying so it won't convince them. Unless there is a video of one of the senior people outright saying they hate Jews then nothing will ever be proof enough.
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What I don't get is why after all this, no one seems to be challenging Corbyn or talking about challenging Corbyn. They risk being sidelined by the resurgent centre parties at the next GE if they do not address this and other issues.

There is even a chance of Corbyn himself being ousted from his Islington seat
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What I don't get is why after all this, no one seems to be challenging Corbyn or talking about challenging Corbyn. They risk being sidelined by the resurgent centre parties at the next GE if they do not address this and other issues.

There is even a chance of Corbyn himself being ousted from his Islington seat
Because the membership is fully behind him.
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