Government & Post Election Discussion
21-02-2018, 22:31
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
208 Labour MP's voted against abolishing Stamp Duty for first time buyers tonight (That would help young people trying to get on the property ladder).
I thought Labour were suppose to be the party representing the young.... let that sink in...
What happened to the in the 'for the many, not the few.' Bloody cretins that Labour are.
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22-02-2018, 02:12
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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208 Labour MP's voted against abolishing Stamp Duty for first time buyers tonight (That would help young people trying to get on the property ladder).
I thought Labour were suppose to be the party representing the young.... let that sink in...
What happened to the in the 'for the many, not the few.' Bloody cretins that Labour are.
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Except it wouldn't help them get on the ladder, let that sink in
There was a vote tonight?
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Former shadow cabinet member Rachel Reeves, who chairs the all-party Business Select Committee, told MPs the housing measures in the Budget were "the exact opposite from what we need if we want to ensure that more young people and more families can get on the housing ladder".
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https://news.sky.com/story/hammond-f...ments-11139538
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22-02-2018, 05:31
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Rachel Reeves has not got a clue. Except it would help them. How can it not?
Stamp duty being abolished, if house prices are a certain price, is a big win for first time buyers...
£125,001-£250,000 @ 2% rate threshold between either £2,500 and £5,000 Stamp duty.
£5,000 is a lot of money saved that can be spent on new moving in costs, furniture etc.
On November 22nd 2017 the Chancellor announced in the Budget...
Abolishing stamp duty land tax (SDLT) on homes under £300,000 for first-time buyers from 22 November 95% of first-time buyers who pay stamp duty will benefit.
First-time buyers of homes worth between £300,000 and £500,000 will not pay stamp duty on the first £300,000. They will pay the normal rates of stamp duty on the price above that. This will save £1,660 on the average first-time buyer property.
80% of people buying their first home will pay no stamp duty.
There will be no relief for those buying properties over £500,000.
Those 208 Labour MPs were essentially opposing the above budget measures that were announced.
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22-02-2018, 06:09
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Originally Posted by Mick
Rachel Reeves has not got a clue. Except it would help them. How can it not?
Stamp duty being abolished, if house prices are a certain price, is a big win for first time buyers...
£125,001-£250,000 @ 2% rate threshold between either £2,500 and £5,000 Stamp duty.
£5,000 is a lot of money saved that can be spent on new moving in costs, furniture etc.
On November 22nd 2017 the Chancellor announced in the Budget...
Abolishing stamp duty land tax (SDLT) on homes under £300,000 for first-time buyers from 22 November 95% of first-time buyers who pay stamp duty will benefit.
First-time buyers of homes worth between £300,000 and £500,000 will not pay stamp duty on the first £300,000. They will pay the normal rates of stamp duty on the price above that. This will save £1,660 on the average first-time buyer property.
80% of people buying their first home will pay no stamp duty.
There will be no relief for those buying properties over £500,000.
Those 208 Labour MPs were essentially opposing the above budget measures that were announced.
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What first time buyer is paying between 300k and 500k for their first home? The more I hear and think about it, the more i think they're right this is little more than a gimmick and I imagine it was a gimmick when Labour came up with it to and the best answer to the crisis was John Mann's imo at the end of the article
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"More affordable homes and decent, stable jobs to allow people to save for them are the way to tackle the housing crisis.
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22-02-2018, 06:19
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But having no Stamp Duty to pay, if buying a £150,000 house. Is still money in the first time buyers hand. Not a gimmick. Labour will have to tax folk to death to pay for their large borrowing needs. Thankfully, let’s hope they never get in power.
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22-02-2018, 06:56
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Originally Posted by Mick
But having no Stamp Duty to pay, if buying a £150,000 house. Is still money in the first time buyers hand. Not a gimmick. Labour will have to tax folk to death to pay for their large borrowing needs. Thankfully, let’s hope they never get in power.
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But if it puts the price up on a 150k home by 0.3% it's going to be taking money out of those very hands.
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22-02-2018, 08:54
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Originally Posted by Mick
But having no Stamp Duty to pay, if buying a £150,000 house. Is still money in the first time buyers hand. Not a gimmick. Labour will have to tax folk to death to pay for their large borrowing needs. Thankfully, let’s hope they never get in power.
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The problem is the lack of supply driving up house prices beyond what is affordable. The Stamp duty cut is good but it will quickly cause prices to rise so that the sellers get the benefit of the cut, not the buyers. The breathing room giving by the cut will only give people more money to bid a higher base price for the house.
The main impact of the cut will be to ensure the market keeps growing for a bit longer. If they didn't do that house prices would stall sooner. It's the same as all the other government schemes, they just allow people to get into more debt or get some money from the government to put into the housing market. None of it helps with the main issue.
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06-03-2018, 08:04
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
Lord Ashcroft latest research regarding the forthcoming 2018 London elections.
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2018/03...don-elections/
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07-03-2018, 11:18
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Quote from The Express:
UKIP chiefs have admitted they are just days away from bankruptcy as they rile the troops and beg local branches for £100,000 to keep the party afloat, it has been revealed.
Interim Ukip leader Gerard Batten has written to all local groups across the country to ask them divert any funds they have to the central party “purely for operational needs”.
Ukip officials have since admitted they feel they will go bust if they don’t beg branches to raise £100,000 by the end of the month.
Mr Batten warned: “If we cannot raise it then the future of the party itself is in question.”
The potential bankruptcy comes as the party faces a six-figure costs claim in a legal battle with three Labour MPs.
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I guess if they go under they've achieved their first aim of getting us unchained from the rotting EU corpse.
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09-03-2018, 18:00
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I guess if they go under they've achieved their first aim of getting us unchained from the rotting EU corpse.
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The rotting corpse that has a higher GDP Annual Growth Rate than the USA, Japan, Australia, Brazil, Switzerland, Russia, and the UK?
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11-03-2018, 08:21
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Labour's lead over Conservatives surges to 7% in the latest opinion poll by Survation.
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Survation, which accurately predicted last year’s election result, puts Jeremy Corbyn on 44%, with Theresa May’s Conservative Party trailing on 37% and the Lib Dems notching just 9%.
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Some 48% who voted Conservative at the last general election think the cuts have gone too far.
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...urges-12165233
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11-03-2018, 19:31
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Seems to be an outlier...
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/
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We’ve had three voting intention polls in the last couple of days:
Ipsos MORI‘s monthly political monitor had topline figures of CON 43%(+4), LAB 42%(nc), LDEM 6%(-3). Fieldwork was over last weekend (Fri-Wed), and changes are from January.
YouGov/Times on Friday has toplines of CON 41%(nc), LAB 43%(+1), LDEM 7%(nc). Fieldwork was Mon-Tues and changes are from last week.
Survation/GMB, reported in the Sunday Mirror, has CON 37%(-3), LAB 44%(+1), LDEM 9%(+1). Fieldwork was Wednesday and Thursday, and changes are from the tail end of January.
There is no clear trend – Labour is steady across the board, Survation have the Tories falling, MORI have them rising. MORI and YouGov show the two main parties neck-and-neck, Survation have a clear Labour lead.
The better Labour position in Survation is typical, but it’s not really clear why. As regular readers will know, Survation do both online and telephone voting intention polls. Their phone polls really do have a significantly different methodology – rather than random digit dialling, they randomly select phone numbers from consumer databases and ring those specific people. That would be an obvious possible explanation for a difference between Survation phone polls and polls from other companies. However, this poll wasn’t conducted by telephone, it was conducted online, and Survation’s online method is pretty similar to everyone else’s.
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11-03-2018, 19:56
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My reading of how things are standing are the Conservatives are trusted more on the economy and one or two other areas whilst Labour are trusted more on the NHS and several others areas as well whilst in terms of their leaders Theresa May's reputation was severely damaged during the General Election campaign and she has found it very hard to change that public perception of her whilst Jeremy Corbyn is popular among the younger voters he is not liked or trusted by older voters and he has found it equally hard to change that perception of him.
Personally l think we are highly likely to end up in hung parliament territory come the next General Election which will make it even more difficult then it is now to get things through parliament with regards to important business..
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12-03-2018, 08:20
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Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
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Originally Posted by denphone
My reading of how things are standing are the Conservatives are trusted more on the economy and one or two other areas whilst Labour are trusted more on the NHS and several others areas as well whilst in terms of their leaders Theresa May's reputation was severely damaged during the General Election campaign and she has found it very hard to change that public perception of her whilst Jeremy Corbyn is popular among the younger voters he is not liked or trusted by older voters and he has found it equally hard to change that perception of him.
Personally l think we are highly likely to end up in hung parliament territory come the next General Election which will make it even more difficult then it is now to get things through parliament with regards to important business..
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Assuming that this Parliament runs its full course, we should have a positive reaction from the public on the result of Brexit negotiations and a change of Leader. Add to that the improving economy (at last, we are starting to bring debt down), these figures should change radically in favour of the Conservatives.
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12-03-2018, 20:48
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Assuming that this Parliament runs its full course, we should have a positive reaction from the public on the result of Brexit negotiations and a change of Leader. Add to that the improving economy (at last, we are starting to bring debt down), these figures should change radically in favour of the Conservatives.
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I doubt the public will be happy with the £2bn we've spent on Brexit which could have been spent on the NHS and helped bankrupt Conservative councils. Nor will they believe that we will sign free trade deals with the USA, Russia etc so I suspect that positive reaction may be some time coming.
https://www.ft.com/content/5a47caec-...e-cc62a39d57a0
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