The state benefits system mega-thread.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Trouble is Cameron and Osborne never think of the hurt they bring on people.

We will all soon suffer the hurt they have brought on.

but luckily we will have the likes of this woman to help us all through it.

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Nidge41

Aren't blue badges for people who can't walk more than 20 yards unaided?

No.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by blackthorn

Under normal circumstances I wouldnt like anyone to lose their job but I would make exception for a couple of members of this forum to lose theirs and see how difficult it is to be unemployed.

I'd quite like to see some people around here try a dose of self employment. The prospect of no work = no pay does wonders for your health...

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Originally Posted by raging bull

The parked expensive cars could belong to family members, the blue badge signifies that the vehicle is being used to the benefit of the badge holder.
The problems start when the badge holder is not in the vehicle and then the badge is being used fraudulently. [Possible fine and removal of badge from said badge holder]!

Yup, that's a big problem. Nobody genuinely disabled ought to be stigmatised when using a blue badge but I know several people who avoid using theirs now because they fear being abused. IMHO the penalties for deliberate abuse/fraud in all benefit related matters ought to be tougher.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I hope Gary that you are not having a dig at PCSO's as l support them to the hilt.
Also Osem, l was self employed for nearly three years and hounded by the taxman, so in the end l packed it in and went on the dole for six weeks.

I was banned for two months from unemployment benefit and put on Income Support.

I depended on that so much, the thing that annoyed me was when l was in the employment office, an Indian guy was telling his friends on how to cheat the system in FULL VIEW of workers there and not one done anything about it.

Ironic how the thread full of all types benefit news so its almost impossible to follow is now on the blue badge which is a concession not a benefit

[MalteseFalcon]

But the Tories wouldn't need to be seen as the big bad wolf in all this had Labour not let the welfare state get so out of hand in their 13 years. Drug addicts and alcoholics should never be allowed to claim the benefits they do. What makes me laugh, is I see people claiming Incapacity or now ESA for illnesses which I have and I would get laughed out of my GP's surgery if I asked them to sign me off with those illnesses.

But Labour let the benefits culture grow, and now the Tories are looking bad because they want to cut the bill down by stopping those who don't deserve to claim benefits.

One story though, had my induction today for a work placement in B&M, manager told me someone else sent by the Jobcentre agreed to start, then called yesterday and said he had changed his mind and wouldn't be turning up for it. Even though it says you get sanctioned for at least 13 weeks, bet he gets away with a slap on the wrist and no sanctions at all. Me, I would have been hit with a 26 week sanction. Not fair.

Originally Posted by MarkC1984

But the Tories wouldn't need to be seen as the big bad wolf in all this had Labour not let the welfare state get so out of hand in their 13 years. Drug addicts and alcoholics should never be allowed to claim the benefits they do. What makes me laugh, is I see people claiming Incapacity or now ESA for illnesses which I have and I would get laughed out of my GP's surgery if I asked them to sign me off with those illnesses.

But Labour let the benefits culture grow, and now the Tories are looking bad because they want to cut the bill down by stopping those who don't deserve to claim benefits.

One story though, had my induction today for a work placement in B&M, manager told me someone else sent by the Jobcentre agreed to start, then called yesterday and said he had changed his mind and wouldn't be turning up for it. Even though it says you get sanctioned for at least 13 weeks, bet he gets away with a slap on the wrist and no sanctions at all. Me, I would have been hit with a 26 week sanction. Not fair.

remember it was Thatcher who made easy to claim incapacity as it massaged the unemployment figures

I know plenty of people in need tricked into sanctions. Had one guy round here who had no money for months as he was not filling out his online job search when they had not even given him the correct creds

Not fair is right

[Gary L]

I've just thought. if Conservative's main stance is "For Hard Working People"

then aren't they expecting the (Non working) voters to support them?

or is it that they don't want the (Non working) people to support them?

Will it go down in history that Cameron was took down by the people he took down?

Originally Posted by Gary L

I've just thought. if Conservative's main stance is "For Hard Working People"

then aren't they expecting the (Non working) voters to support them?

or is it that they don't want the (Non working) people to support them?

Will it go down in history that Cameron was took down by the people he took down?

They will win again just because no one really wants Ed in power. It is just whether there is another coalition and if the coalition has any balls

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I trust that Cameron DOES NOT get back into power. He does not give a damn about the normal working person.

Everything he has done so far is to hit the poor. He has already said that he will NOT bring in a Mansion Tax, simple reason is - he will lose his donations that keeps his party together.

IF, he is still in power when l retire, then god help me. I will be going down to the food bank, the luxury that l have is a few cans of beer a week and watching football on Tv.

If he had his way he wouldn't pay OAP pension either just to save money. Thing is what is he doing with the money that he is saving - giving it to other countries in Aid.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

They will win again just because no one really wants Ed in power. It is just whether there is another coalition and if the coalition has any balls

Well, he doesn't want under 25's to vote him back in. he doesn't want the unemployed to vote him back in. he doesn't want the disabled to vote him back in. he doesn't want the bedroom tax payers to vote him back in.

there's only the workers left.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

how is it enforced by court action ? unless it is a council owned car park and proper wardens

Because it's a civil action, by parking in the bay, you do so under the terms and conditions of the notice.

This forms a contract between you and the car park owner, if you break the terms of the contract he can charge you a penalty, set out under the terms.

If you don't pay he can take you to small claims court and get a CCJ against you.

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Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

remember it was Thatcher who made easy to claim incapacity as it massaged the unemployment figures

don't forget, whatever the issue. It's always Thatchers fault..........

Originally Posted by Pierre

Because it's a civil action, by parking in the bay, you do so under the terms and conditions of the notice.

This forms a contract between you and the car park owner, if you break the terms of the contract he can charge you a penalty, set out under the terms.

If you don't pay he can take you to small claims court and get a CCJ against you.

just say you have a learning difficulty and did not read the sign

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

just say you have a learning difficulty and did not read the sign

Well you shouldn't be driving if have a learning difficulty and can't read.

Not the best defence out there.

Originally Posted by Pierre

Well you shouldn't be driving if have a learning difficulty and can't read.

Not the best defence out there.

I do not so you are safe lol