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Old 08-08-2018, 09:56   #766
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Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels

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The stats you have produced for 16-22 July are the ones Gavin showed as being for 23-29 July and vice versa. Which is correct?

Someone has their dates muddled.
Good spot.
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Good spot.

They're the same?
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:08   #768
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They're the same?
No, they are not, Snoop. Gavin's post shows UKTV figures going up over those two weeks whereas batchain has his figures going down. Gavin's figures don't make sense.

https://www.tvbeurope.com/business/f...rgin-uktv-spat
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Old 08-08-2018, 10:14   #769
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Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels

Gavin's figures are indeed the wrong way around, having checked on the site. The impact is as follows:

  • Home up by 0.02% weekly reach to 4.48% overall (relative improvement of 0.4%)
  • Yesterday down by 0.08% weekly reach to 9.11% overall (relative fall of 0.9%)
  • Really down by 0.52% weekly reach to 7.41% overall (relative fall of 6.6%)
  • Drama down by 0.62% weekly reach to 8.16% overall (relative fall of 7.1%)
  • Dave down by 1.29% weekly reach to 12.13% (relative fall of 9.6%)
  • W down by 0.91% weekly reach to 5.33% (relative fall of 14.6%)
  • Good Food down by 0.43% weekly reach to 2.43% (relative fall of 15.0%)
  • Gold down by 1.31% weekly reach to 5.09% (relative fall of 20.5%)
  • Alibi down by 0.7% weekly reach to 2.23% (relative fall of 23.9%)
  • Eden down by 0.22% weekly reach to 0.67% (relative fall of 24.7%)

The five seeing the biggest relative falls are the five paid channels, with the Freeview channels likely seeing the drops mitigated somewhat by.. well, being on Freeview.
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Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels

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No, they are not, Snoop. Gavin's post shows UKTV figures going up over those two weeks whereas batchain has his figures going down. Gavin's figures don't make sense.

https://www.tvbeurope.com/business/f...rgin-uktv-spat
I had just compared GOLD and that 1 is correct on Gavins, so yes Gavin has his mixed up.
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Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels

When the figures appeared on the BARB website on Monday they were briefly the wrong way round. The latest figures were listed as 16th-22nd July instead of 23rd-29th July.
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When the figures appeared on the BARB website on Monday they were briefly the wrong way round. The latest figures were listed as 16th-22nd July instead of 23rd-29th July.
That explains it, then! Well spotted.
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Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels

An increase of 0.4% is statistically insignificant and smaller than the other decrease %s.
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Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels

I for one will not miss the dross that ITV has on, should we loss ITV.

The Chase (Which is on 7 days a week) Tipping point (The most stupid quiz ever).

I won't even be allowed to say what I think about shows like X-Factor, BGT & the other counties version of BGT.
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I for one will not miss the dross that ITV has on, should we loss ITV.

The Chase (Which is on 7 days a week) Tipping point (The most stupid quiz ever).

I won't even be allowed to say what I think about shows like X-Factor, BGT & the other counties version of BGT.
you do know VM and ITV signed a new deal don't you
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Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels

I think what the problem is that VM want the best of both world's. UKTV have already stated that VM wanted a cut in what they pay for the channels.

UKTV, are totally within the rights to refuse this.

Look at this scenario. VM put up our subs. IF enough subs said NO, where would VM be.

Its exactly the same.

VM directors want to become richer. But to me they are a waste of space.

It happened several years ago under Telewest. My family used to watch Horizon. But this channel was taken off as Telewest said that viewing figures were low.

TV companies should not be our judges, when we PAY for a service that we deserve
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It happened several years ago under Telewest. My family used to watch Horizon. But this channel was taken off as Telewest said that viewing figures were low.
UK Horizons was not drop from Telewest. But on 8 March 2004, the channel was replaced by two new channels, UKTV Documentary (now called Eden) and UKTV People (now called Drama)

The following was drop for some time on what was called in Media Boy HQ Conwest.

-History (for an day)
-Nickelodeon (for about three month)
-Travel Channel

Also when Telewest did own Sit-Up Ltd (2005 to 2009) Telewest did not even carry Matinee Movies and Bad Movies.

That like Sky not broadcasting Sky One.
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Well that's strange, that's what Telewest told me then.
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Sounds like it was the CS person making it up as they went along Arthur, interesting that it was going on even in those days!

IIRC, UKTV Documentary was on during the day and UKTV People in the evening- but don't quote me on that.
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Re: Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels

A quick glance around the Twitter-sphere and it's all gone very quiet on there since last week. Virgin keeping court and repeating "constructive talks", UKTV still encouraging other providers albeit not so forcefully now.

I wonder if there are still active efforts being made....
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