Netflix/Streaming Services
19-05-2018, 17:07
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by denphone
Not in my opinion OB.
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How do you find them useful, Den? They are not even in HD. I rarely watch anything in SD these days.
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Originally Posted by Onramp
I guess there are people out there that would want to record 6 channels and watch catchup on a 7th, but really, how often would that happen in practice? Bandwidth on cable for broadcast is at a premium. I think +1s, while originally a nice concept, are now just a waste of space.
Given the option, an individual subscriber could theoretically choose channels that they want to ¨+1-ify¨ by using some of their free tuners to fill a temporary area of their box with 1 hour old content. Then you could even choose to make a particular channel a +2 if you wanted.
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If you have two linked V6s, that's not a problem!
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19-05-2018, 17:56
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
How do you find them useful, Den? They are not even in HD. I rarely watch anything in SD these days.
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There are useful because l use them as l do a lot of recordings to watch in the coming days.
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19-05-2018, 18:15
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
You are being pedantic, Chris. Most people outside this forum don't have a clue what the difference is between streaming and on demand. As far as public perception is concerned, they are one and the same thing.
I kind of apologise for any confusion I might have created, but I was not addressing the technophobes!
No, I was referring to my assertion that Sky Atlantic was coming to VM. It was true, but not in the timeframe I expected. Sky Atlantic should indeed appear on VM screens either this year or early next.
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....And by the way, Chris, my prediction was for 20, not 10 years ahead.
You may be interested in this:
https://www.tvbeurope.com/content/ro...l-broadcasters
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Originally Posted by denphone
There are useful because l use them as l do a lot of recordings to watch in the coming days.
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I thought you had a V6, sorry!
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19-05-2018, 18:19
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
....And by the way, Chris, my prediction was for 20, not 10 years ahead.
You may be interested in this:
https://www.tvbeurope.com/content/ro...l-broadcasters
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I thought you had a V6, sorry!
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l have OB..
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19-05-2018, 18:19
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by denphone
There are useful because l use them as l do a lot of recordings to watch in the coming days.
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So you are trying to record 6 programmes at the same time? I'd be interested to know what they are!!
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19-05-2018, 18:28
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Quote from OLD BOY:
So you are trying to record 6 programmes at the same time? I'd be interested to know what they are!!
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I wondered seeing as we are quite happy with a non-recording VboxHD and rarely find any collisions.
Or maybe we're just a bit more picky?
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19-05-2018, 18:31
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
I wondered seeing as we are quite happy with a non-recording VboxHD and rarely find any collisions.
Or maybe we're just a bit more picky?
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I think perhaps you are missing a lot!
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19-05-2018, 18:49
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
So you are trying to record 6 programmes at the same time? I'd be interested to know what they are!!
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Quite a few l series on different channels , football , horse racing , movies.
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19-05-2018, 19:08
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by denphone
Quite a few l series on different channels , football , horse racing , movies.
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Fair enough, although in your shoes I'd be inclined to watch sport live and bookmark the movies.
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19-05-2018, 20:40
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by Raider999
Surely record ability and on-demand means +1 channels are redundant?
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No, they remain quite popular.
http://www.barb.co.uk/viewing-data/w...-summary/?_s=4
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19-05-2018, 21:35
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Fair enough, although in your shoes I'd be inclined to watch sport live and bookmark the movies.
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Ideally yes, but not always possible as people have other things to do and there are clashes particularly on a weekend
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20-05-2018, 16:13
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by Raider999
This news seems to back up my thoughts that streaming is not coming cheap.
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On top of normal tv/phone/broadband bundles, I'd agree. But when/if the traditional pay tv bundle collapses, then it may get cheaper or not, if streaming prices keep rising.
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I think you're still right. Linear will largely die off.
In effect, my viewing has been almost all on-demand since 2004 when ntl upped their broadband speeds.
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20-05-2018, 16:18
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by Horizon
On top of normal tv/phone/broadband bundles, I'd agree. But when/if the traditional pay tv bundle collapses, then it may get cheaper or not, if streaming prices keep rising.
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That's the thing. When only the on demand/streaming services are left (or everything you can get on the pay tv channels is replicated there), paying only for the streaming/on demand services will make perfect sense and this would be cheaper than the existing satellite and cable tv bundles.
Sky have already embraced this with the changes they are bringing in soon and I am sure that VM have advanced plans, since they've been promoting on demand for years. They need to get many more VM Exclusives and plenty more besides in HBO-type deals to make it worthwhile to continue to subscribe to cable services. This, and ensuring that the STBs become known as good value streamers, is the key to ensuring the survival of cable tv.
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20-05-2018, 16:44
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
That's the thing. When only the on demand/streaming services are left (or everything you can get on the pay tv channels is replicated there), paying only for the streaming/on demand services will make perfect sense and this would be cheaper than the existing satellite and cable tv bundles.
Sky have already embraced this with the changes they are bringing in soon and I am sure that VM have advanced plans, since they've been promoting on demand for years. They need to get many more VM Exclusives and plenty more besides in HBO-type deals to make it worthwhile to continue to subscribe to cable services. This, and ensuring that the STBs become known as good value streamers, is the key to ensuring the survival of cable tv.
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Streaming will only be cheaper than linear if there are only A small number of streamers.
If the rights to different sports are spread over a larger number of streamers all wanting there £15-25 pm it is going to be more expensive for me
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20-05-2018, 18:32
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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
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Originally Posted by Raider999
Streaming will only be cheaper than linear if there are only A small number of streamers.
If the rights to different sports are spread over a larger number of streamers all wanting there £15-25 pm it is going to be more expensive for me
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Sport is rather a different proposition, I'll grant you that. However, it is likely that you will be able to pick and choose which sports you want to watch, rather than paying for a lot of sport that doesn't interest you.
I think maybe there will be a lot more choice of sports events televised than as at present, which could give the impression that you are getting less value for money whereas you may be making choices that lead you to watch more of your preferred sports than you are able to do now.
It will be interesting to see how this pans out.
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