Florida Shooting: 17 Students Shot dead in another Mass Shooting in the U.S

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

And according to the US Census, the USA is 73% White, 13% Black/African American.

So if you correlate total population against executions, there would be 3/4 of 23 would be White (around 16), and 1/7 would be Black/African-American (around 3 or 4).

Scarily enough, I made a near identical post yesterday morning.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It's obviously not about absolute numbers but the chances of being executed in the US are higher if you're black than white as the country is composed of 13% black people and 72% white people.
So, a proportionate number of executions in 2017 would have been more like 17 white (not 13) and 3 black (not 8). We would need to track back over several years to see a full picture.

Sigh. The statement was, "More blacks are executed than whites.'

Factually incorrect and has been over several years.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Sigh. The statement was, "More blacks are executed than whites.'

Factually incorrect and has been over several years.

I think the actual statement was this:

Originally Posted by Mr K

There seems to be a low regard for life in the US. Let face it, they accept executing innocent people, particularly if they're poor and black.

On what actual evidence is this based ?

...... they accept executing innocent people, particularly if they're poor and black.

and who are "they" ?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Paul M

On what actual evidence is this based ?



and who are "they" ?

They = the US public. Evidence? Well here's some:- https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-black-inmates

However even the US seems to be turning their back on the death penalty. It just doesn't work and there are mistakes, aswell as it depends how rich you are. These continuing atrocities show it's no deterrent to nutters; least they can do is make it harder for them to obtain guns.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43193222

The US National Rifle Association (NRA) has said it does not support any gun ban following a shooting in a Florida school that left 17 people dead.

The NRA's comments appear to go against President Donald Trump's proposals to tighten gun controls.

Well that's probably the end of the matter.

The shooting is horrendous enough, but when people

- say that the shooting was a hoax.

- call the survivors "crisis actors."

- send death threats to the survivors and their famillies.

There's the real horror — the lack of feeling, the lack of empathy, the lack of humanity.

You cannot say to these people, "Shame on you," because they have already demonstrated they have no shame or decency.

Originally Posted by Maggy J

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43193222



Well that's probably the end of the matter.

We will see. Pressure is on Congress to do something. The debate will be slow, as it always is in DC.

Congress will make minor concessions. The momentum this time hasn't died down and I think the NRA knows something needs to appear to happen.

The unlimited money for candidates is a cancer of US politics. Congressman know the NRA will fund primary challenges to anyone who votes for meaningful gun legislation.

Originally Posted by Mr K

They = the US public. Evidence? Well here's some:- https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-black-inmates.

Thats one piece of research, in one small aera, over 20 years ago - hardly conclusive evidence of the whole of the US justice system.

Originally Posted by Paul M

Thats one piece of research, in one small aera, over 20 years ago - hardly conclusive evidence of the whole of the US justice system.

Some up to date info

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/race-de...-executed-1976

Race of defendants executed since 1976
BLACK 504 34.5%
LATINO 122 8.3%
WHITE 819 55.6%
OTHER 24 1.6

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/files/p...Summer2017.pdf

TOTAL NUMBER OF DEATH ROW INMATES KNOWN TO LDF: 2,817
Race of Defendant:
White 1,196 42.46%
Black 1,168 41.46%
Latino/Latina 373 13.24%
Native American 26 0.92%
Asian 53 0.04%
Unknown at this issue 1

Gender:
Male 2,764
Female 53

Baseline population of the USA 73% White, 13% Black/African-American

Latest: Florida House Speaker Richard Corcoran, along with nearly 70 state Representatives, send letter to Florida Governor Scott, requesting he “suspend” Broward Co. Sheriff Scott Israel in wake of Parkland School Massacre, for negligence and incompetence.

https://twitter.com/PeterSchorschFL/...34532517888000

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Damien

Congress will make minor concessions. The momentum this time hasn't died down and I think the NRA knows something needs to appear to happen.

The unlimited money for candidates is a cancer of US politics. Congressman know the NRA will fund primary challenges to anyone who votes for meaningful gun legislation.

Anyone expecting major change to the gun laws in the States is spitting in the wind. It's a Constitutional right to bear arms out there, and you won't change that in a hurry!

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Anyone expecting major change to the gun laws in the States is spitting in the wind. It's a Constitutional right to bear arms out there, and you won't change that in a hurry!

Well, you could change the constitution, maybe its not all its cracked up to be ? But agree nothing will change, sometimes you just have to let them get on with it and shoot each other...

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Originally Posted by Mick

Latest: Florida House Speaker Richard Corcoran, along with nearly 70 state Representatives, send letter to Florida Governor Scott, requesting he “suspend” Broward Co. Sheriff Scott Israel in wake of Parkland School Massacre, for negligence and incompetence.

https://twitter.com/PeterSchorschFL/...34532517888000

A scapegoat.

Originally Posted by Mr K

A scapegoat.

Wrong. if he did not do his job properly, he should be fired, he isn't immune to accountability. His force messed up big time according to all accounts and calls to deal with this Cruz teenager and they failed to act multiple times. That is not a scapegoat that is negligence and incompetence on a massive level.