Russia has invaded Ukraine

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

True, all hands need to be on deck to deal with the current situation. I only hope that there is no undue Putin influence in our Government. I wouldn't think that there is as, even those who may have been bought, have now seen this individual for what he is.

There have also been allegations that Russia interfered with our (and other) elections and the EU referendum in order to stir up trouble and cause division in the West.

If true, he certainty succeeded in his aims. However, invading Ukrainia appears to have undone all this. I have friends right across the political spectrum, from all walks of life, faiths, races etc.

Without exception, every one of them has condemned this invasion and want to do whatever they can do to help. Long held feuds, political differences, business rivalries, prejudices etc have all been tossed to one side in favour of unity over this issue.

It's the same in the wider world too, former MP Gyles Brandreth said this morning that we effectively "rejoined the EU again for a day" after we were invited to partake in discussions with them in how to deal with this.

Could anyone have ever imagined that happening, even a fortnight ago?

Attacking nuclear power plants and a hospital (where children with cancer will die if moved to be evacuated) shows the depths that this wicked and depraved dictator will go to achieve his aims.

The best thing will be for his own to topple him from power or assassinate him. It's been an uncomfortable realisation for me today having to accept that I no longer believe that all God given life is precious.

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They did the same thing to the BBC news site earlier (see post #696).

As I said in that post, I fear that the use of a VPN could be traced and ultimately cost people their freedom/lives.

I'm hoping that someone who knows more about such things can advise us.

I think they got more to worry about than checking individual's internet connection. Seeing someone is using a VPN is relatively easy but then tracing where you went is a far bit more complicated and to do that for everyone....

[Mad Max]

Four NATO warships have docked on the banks of the River Tay in Dundee after arriving from Norway in the early hours of Friday morning, I actually saw one of them being guided in by a couple of tug boats early this afternoon.

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

I think they got more to worry about than checking individual's internet connection. Seeing someone is using a VPN is relatively easy but then tracing where you went is a far bit more complicated and to do that for everyone....

It would be automated, not manual…

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Hugh

It would be automated, not manual…

detecting a VPN usage surely but tracing all the nodes?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Hugh

It would be automated, not manual…

Could this be done en masse?

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

detecting a VPN usage surely but tracing all the nodes?

Maybe they will simply forbid people from using a VPN, so that might not matter??

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

Four NATO warships have docked on the banks of the River Tay in Dundee after arriving from Norway in the early hours of Friday morning, I actually saw one of them being guided in by a couple of tug boats early this afternoon.

Is this sort of thing routine, or could NATO be making preparations for being called upon?

[Mad Max]

Is this sort of thing routine, or could NATO be making preparations for being called upon?

I'm not so sure, Richard, but maybe Hugh can enlighten us with his thoughts.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Mad Max

Four NATO warships have docked on the banks of the River Tay in Dundee after arriving from Norway in the early hours of Friday morning, I actually saw one of them being guided in by a couple of tug boats early this afternoon.

Were any of them minelayers?

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Carth

Were any of them minelayers?

Can't reveal that mate, signed the Official Secrets Act.

Originally Posted by Carth

Were any of them minelayers?

Originally Posted by Mad Max

Can't reveal that mate, signed the Official Secrets Act.

If they were in public view, and filmed by STV, pretty sure you confirming that they were two frigates and two replenishment ships wouldn’t be a breach…

https://news.stv.tv/north/two-nato-w...ion-of-ukraine

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

If they were in public view, and filmed by STV, pretty sure you confirming that they were two frigates and two replenishment ships wouldn’t be a breach…

https://news.stv.tv/north/two-nato-w...ion-of-ukraine

I think he was going to say 'frigate' but thought the swear filter might get him

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

I think he was going to say 'frigate' but thought the swear filter might get him

Russia total losses since start of invasion up to March 4th.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

Russia total losses since start of invasion up to March 4th.

Trouble is they have a lot more of all of those and a cornered mad man at the helm.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Trouble is they have a lot more of all of those and a cornered mad man at the helm.

As well as their own, they can count on Belarus to chip in too. Plus they have a fully-functioning economy back home whilst Ukraine's basic resources of food, energy, health, communications and sanitation are all worsening by the day.
Only real hope is Putin being deposed which seems unlikely at present.

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