23-06-2020, 07:26
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by Paul
Unbelievable, what a complete bunch of idiots.
Targets are a form of discrimination in themselves.
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If the BBC take this too far, their dramas will get so PC that they will lose their core audience in droves. That will mean more pressure - not to abolish the licence fee, but to abolish the BBC.
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23-06-2020, 08:05
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#677
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by Paul
Unbelievable, what a complete bunch of idiots.
Targets are a form of discrimination in themselves.
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Not at all surprised, Burnley seem to have lost the plot completely.
At least Man City showed some sense ;
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Targets are one of the methods of balancing decades of (sometimes subconscious) discriminatory hiring, and motivate companies to review policies that can support equality of opportunities, introducing practices such as "blind CVs", balanced interview panels, & outreach programmes.
Unfortunately, old ways of doing things don’t fix themselves, and a target is an ambition, not a measure companies will go under from not meeting.
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23-06-2020, 08:21
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Targets are one of the methods of balancing decades of (sometimes subconscious) discriminatory hiring, and motivate companies to review policies that can support equality of opportunities, introducing practices such as "blind CVs", balanced interview panels, & outreach programmes.
Unfortunately, old ways of doing things don’t fix themselves, and a target is an ambition, not a measure companies will go under from not meeting.
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What a load of boolcks! This is the PC BBC we are talking about. It is not a target, it is a certainty!
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23-06-2020, 08:41
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Re: Black Lives Matter
BLM and the BBC in one thread ! I predict the angry right wing old white men will appear soon...
Oh, I see they already have !
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23-06-2020, 08:46
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by Mr K
BLM and the BBC in one thread ! I predict the angry right wing old white men will appear soon...
Oh, I see they already have !
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Stop twisting tails and try contributing?
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23-06-2020, 08:50
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Re: Black Lives Matter
So if you go for a job interview at the beeb on pick a token [colour/ alphabet person]day your pretty much buggered if your a white hetro male.
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23-06-2020, 08:57
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Re: Black Lives Matter
That's the problem with this thread. US police do bad things with black lives. Suddenly, the UK becomes tarred with the same brush but on a wider scale. Then the left wing biased BBC is brought into play (Papa's sentiment is right).
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23-06-2020, 09:21
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
That's the problem with this thread. US police do bad things with black lives. Suddenly, the UK becomes tarred with the same brush but on a wider scale. Then the left wing biased BBC is brought into play (Papa's sentiment is right).
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The BBC was brought into play legitimately, Seph, due to their response to the BLM issue.
However, we should not allow racists to water down the fact that this movement gained popular support due to US police violence against black people.
This is not about statues, attacks on the white population or the sensibilities of the flakes, and it’s certainly not about violent protest and damage to property. It’s about the continuing violent repression towards blacks in the US, which operates in plain sight. I have no time for the U.K. version, which has the overthrow of capitalism as one of its objectives - nothing to do with addressing discrimination against black people at all.
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23-06-2020, 09:34
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
The BBC was brought into play legitimately, Seph, due to their response to the BLM issue.
However, we should not allow racists to water down the fact that this movement gained popular support due to US police violence against black people.
This is not about statues, attacks on the white population or the sensibilities of the flakes, and it’s certainly not about violent protest and damage to property. It’s about the continuing violent repression towards blacks in the US, which operates in plain sight. I have no time for the U.K. version, which has the overthrow of capitalism as one of its objectives - nothing to do with addressing discrimination against black people at all.
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I agree with everything you say, OB. Just to clarify on the BBC, sure they come into this thread legitimately - as the epitome of taking things to the nth leftie agenda degree.
A debate on the BBC might be amusing.
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23-06-2020, 09:37
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
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Because it's mocking the BLM movement essentially.
Again implicit in the slogan of Black Lives Matter is the addition of 'too'. Black Lives Matter too. It's isn't that they matter more, it's that the life of someone whose black matters as much as that of someone who is white.
If you were to complain you've been treated unfairly in relation to your co-workers, say you get 5 days fewer holidays than everyone else, and said 'I deserve as much as holiday as anyone else' and all your boss kept saying is 'EVERYONE deserves the same' then you'll get pretty pissed off.
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23-06-2020, 09:54
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
So if you go for a job interview at the beeb on pick a token [colour/ alphabet person]day your pretty much buggered if your a white hetro male.
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You sound as if you feel you’re being discriminated against - not much fun, is it?
btw, the latest stats show people from BAME backgrounds make up 15.3% of BBC staff - since nearly 85% of are white, your statement is probably not based on actuality...
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23-06-2020, 09:56
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by Paul
Unbelievable, what a complete bunch of idiots.
Targets are a form of discrimination in themselves;
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The same kind of targets i was assured didn’t exist in the corporate world by persons on here, until I showed that they did.......suddenly that line of discussion went quiet.
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23-06-2020, 10:00
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
A debate on the BBC might be amusing.
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There's many a circular thread to be found on the BBC in this forum.
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23-06-2020, 10:01
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vox populi vox dei
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by Hugh
You sound as if you feel you’re being discriminated against - not much fun, is it?
btw, the latest stats show people from BAME backgrounds make up 15.3% of BBC staff - since nearly 85% of are white, your statement is probably not based on actuality...
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Trust me if i wen't for a job at the beeb they'd throw me out no matter what my colour /alphabet status was on the day,i'm just not pc friendly
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23-06-2020, 10:01
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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: Black Lives Matter
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Targets are one of the methods of balancing decades of (sometimes subconscious) discriminatory hiring, and motivate companies to review policies that can support equality of opportunities, introducing practices such as "blind CVs", balanced interview panels, & outreach programmes.
Unfortunately, old ways of doing things don’t fix themselves, and a target is an ambition, not a measure companies will go under from not meeting.
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So you’ve moved from “never seen that happen”
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...&postcount=625
To:
Oh yah, it’s a method of balancing decades of discrimination, oh yah
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