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Old 29-04-2021, 14:26   #181
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Re: The future of television

https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/st...641315330?s=21

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Robbie Gibb, Theresa May's ex-director of comms, is joining the BBC Board. A critic of BBC bias. Will be their England representative.

He tells me: “The Corporation has a big job to reform and make sure it once again becomes the gold standard for broadcasting impartiality"
He’ll be joining the new BBC Chair (Richard Sharp, ex-adviser to Rishi Sunak, donated over £400k to the Conservative Party), and may be joined next year by the proposed Head of OFCOM, Paul Dacre (currently Chairman and editor-in-chief of that paragon of unbiased reportage, the Daily Mail).

"Impartiality" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there…
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I wouldn’t worry… It’s more than balanced out by the fact that the BBC rarely advertises for journalists anywhere other than in the Guardian.
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ITV wants a radical review of the public service broadcasting requirements.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2021...rgent-reforms/
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Old 29-04-2021, 17:43   #184
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I wouldn’t worry… It’s more than balanced out by the fact that the BBC rarely advertises for journalists anywhere other than in the Guardian.
Like most jobs, they’re online now…

https://careerssearch.bbc.co.uk/

There are 7 BBC jobs on the Guardian website,, & 173 on the BBC Careers website.
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13 million Neanderthals last night.

Given LoD started on BBC 2 on a Wednesday night I’m guessing most caught up streaming but watched linear last night. It’s almost as if viewers aren’t dogmatic.

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13 million Neanderthals last night.

Given LoD started on BBC 2 on a Wednesday night I’m guessing most caught up streaming but watched linear last night. It’s almost as if viewers aren’t dogmatic.
Put me down as a Neanderthal.
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13 million Neanderthals last night.

Given LoD started on BBC 2 on a Wednesday night I’m guessing most caught up streaming but watched linear last night. It’s almost as if viewers aren’t dogmatic.
Ummmm
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13 million Neanderthals last night.

Given LoD started on BBC 2 on a Wednesday night I’m guessing most caught up streaming but watched linear last night. It’s almost as if viewers aren’t dogmatic.
This proves nothing except that you seem incapable of distinguishing the present from the future. Not one of your better observations, I would say.
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This proves nothing except that you seem incapable of distinguishing the present from the future. Not one of your better observations, I would say.
I can’t observe the future OB any more than you can.

All I see in the present is setback after setback to your 2035 vision. Broadband won’t be up to it, there’s nobody with “deep pockets” waiting to buy the Premier League rights and millions of viewers continue to watch linear television when it suits them.
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I can’t observe the future OB any more than you can.

All I see in the present is setback after setback to your 2035 vision. Broadband won’t be up to it, there’s nobody with “deep pockets” waiting to buy the Premier League rights and millions of viewers continue to watch linear television when it suits them.
The point you seem to be missing is that I have never claimed that anything would change yet, apart from a decline in the number of TV channels launching. This will be followed over the next few years by an overall decline in TV channels - slow at first, but then it will speed up.

The fact that occasionally, linear channels will clock up a decent audience is not surprising, given that the streamers are forcing the terrestrials and Sky to up their game.

And while an exceptional 13 million people watching this one series is a good result, it still doesn't compare to the audiences of 16 million that Coronation Street used to achieve on a regular basis.
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The point you seem to be missing is that I have never claimed that anything would change yet, apart from a decline in the number of TV channels launching. This will be followed over the next few years by an overall decline in TV channels - slow at first, but then it will speed up.

The fact that occasionally, linear channels will clock up a decent audience is not surprising, given that the streamers are forcing the terrestrials and Sky to up their game.

And while an exceptional 13 million people watching this one series is a good result, it still doesn't compare to the audiences of 16 million that Coronation Street used to achieve on a regular basis.
I’m not missing your point OB.

What changes between now and whichever predetermined date you’ve arbitrarily pulled out the air this week?

People who clearly have internet access and enabled devices still watch linear television. Despite having the option people watch as broadcast on linear as a preference to streaming. To the average viewer who views them as complementary, and not competing, technologies. That begs the question where, when and why do they arbitrarily change their viewing habits to the point linear ceases to be viable? When broadcasters stop? When does that happen? When there’s no viewers?

It’s the chicken and egg scenario with no chicken.

And no egg.
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Not everyone has dropped linear.
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The point you seem to be missing is that I have never claimed that anything would change yet, apart from a decline in the number of TV channels launching. This will be followed over the next few years by an overall decline in TV channels - slow at first, but then it will speed up.

The fact that occasionally, linear channels will clock up a decent audience is not surprising, given that the streamers are forcing the terrestrials and Sky to up their game.

And while an exceptional 13 million people watching this one series is a good result, it still doesn't compare to the audiences of 16 million that Coronation Street used to achieve on a regular basis.
May l remind you that Coranation Street were getting those audiences when we just had the 4 terrestrial channels and as such Line of Duty linear TV audiences of 12 to 13 million in the age of where there are many streaming outlets for TV viewers to frequent is pretty impressive.
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Not everyone has dropped linear.
Indeed, but if a programme like LoD is scoring 13 million on the overnights and perhaps a further 3-4m on catching up that’s not because everyone without access to iPlayer in some form decided to watch the same program.

Fundamentally those kinds of figures are pushed by generating hype, getting people talking about it on social media and having the cast on a series of magazine programming/puff pieces on BBC News/Norton/This Morning.

Dumping seven episodes on an arbitrary Monday morning wouldn’t generate this level of interest. Even if universally available and “free”.
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