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Old 29-04-2021, 13:09   #10381
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Wouldn't Amazon love having a perm channel on tap? Anyone with Prime gets it free and they'd pack the breaks with Amazon adverts.

Disney however already have ESPN so likewise..anyone with a Disney+ sub gets the channel free.
Streamers are hopeless for live football, always at least a good 30 seconds behind.
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Old 29-04-2021, 15:44   #10383
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Streamers are hopeless for live football, always at least a good 30 seconds behind.

Which doesn't really matter (why do you need to be on the phone to others when watching live footballs?) - picture quality is my problem with streamers

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BT only got into sports to arrest the decline in broadband customers when sky moved into broadband.

BT are currently looking to maintain at least 50% of BT sports - but may be tempted in the future if their partner wants full control.

Virgin don't get involved in rights so I wouldn't expect them to bid.

However, if I was a Virgin customer with free BT sports I would be worried as I cannot see the service being free when another company gets involved.
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Old 29-04-2021, 17:21   #10384
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My thoughts below, in conclusion Disney or DAZN.
  • Amazon - not a heavy investor in sport as additional rights costs could not be covered by the Prime subscription.
  • BeIN - have reduced their investment in Europe in recent years and becoming more financially prudent. Unlikely.
  • DAZN - have recently signed up Matchroom Boxing in the UK so could be tempted to add BT's range of sports to make a full-scale sports offering. Have partnered with Telecom Italia in Italy so could be tempted to do the same with BT in the UK.
  • Discovery - would make a nice addition to Discovery + and also its Eurosport channels which are more prominent outside the UK. But traditionally financially prudent so unlikely to get into a bidding war.
  • Disney - own 80% of ESPN whose brand is licenced to BT. Would make a great addition to Disney+ and in return, could offer Disney + to BT.
  • Premier Sports - could only afford to invest if in collaboration with a financial investor so bring less to the party. Unlikely.
  • Sky - can't really see what's in it for them, apart from driving up the price for other buyers... which also has the side-effect of driving up analysts' valuations of Sky Sports.
Yes, I think you have that about right. I would only comment that Amazon would charge a premium over and above the Prime subscription, so they are certainly in the running if they want to get further into sport, which may not be their bag.

DAZN and Disney + are the most likely contenders I think, and that seems to be your view as well.
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Yes, I think you have that about right. I would only comment that Amazon would charge a premium over and above the Prime subscription, so they are certainly in the running if they want to get further into sport, which may not be their bag.

DAZN and Disney + are the most likely contenders I think, and that seems to be your view as well.
The clear evidence from the Premier League trying to get a new contract rolled over from the current contract is that Amazon aren’t interested in anything on that scale.

The current deal gives them some low hanging fruit for peanuts. The pandemic has accelerated Prime uptake significantly. I used to track items 10 stops away that weren’t even in the same town. Now they are a matter of a few hundred yards away.

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  • Sky - can't really see what's in it for them, apart from driving up the price for other buyers... which also has the side-effect of driving up analysts' valuations of Sky Sports.
Driving down the cost of rights would be hugely important as for the next few years they’d be the only game in town in the absence of those deep pocket streamers.
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Old 29-04-2021, 18:24   #10386
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Which doesn't really matter (why do you need to be on the phone to others when watching live footballs?) - picture quality is my problem with streamers

---------- Post added at 15:44 ---------- Previous post was at 15:39 ----------

BT only got into sports to arrest the decline in broadband customers when sky moved into broadband.

BT are currently looking to maintain at least 50% of BT sports - but may be tempted in the future if their partner wants full control.

Virgin don't get involved in rights so I wouldn't expect them to bid.

However, if I was a Virgin customer with free BT sports I would be worried as I cannot see the service being free when another company gets involved.
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Old 29-04-2021, 18:34   #10387
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Of course it isn't just "on the phone" that football can be ruined - during major events in the summer with windows/doors open you can hear people cheering down the street.

A problem even worse in flats.
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Old 29-04-2021, 19:23   #10388
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However, if I was a Virgin customer with free BT sports I would be worried as I cannot see the service being free when another company gets involved.
Free really ? I think not part of package yes free no
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Old 29-04-2021, 21:48   #10389
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However, if I was a Virgin customer with free BT sports I would be worried as I cannot see the service being free when another company gets involved.
That's always a possibility, even if the BT Sport channels remain 100% BT owned.

In favour of them remaining in VM packages, a new owner would be unlikely to want to lose the guaranteed wholesale money from Virgin Media too quickly.
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That's always a possibility, even if the BT Sport channels remain 100% BT owned.

In favour of them remaining in VM packages, a new owner would be unlikely to want to lose the guaranteed wholesale money from Virgin Media too quickly.
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Ssh, you're tarnishing your lefty credentials.
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Free really ? I think not part of package yes free no
£9.25 a month is what so called free BT Sports costs VM customers at a minimum. A bargain if you're a sports fan, but not if you aren't.
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£9.25 a month is what so called free BT Sports costs VM customers at a minimum. A bargain if you're a sports fan, but not if you aren't.
That's not what Virgin pay per subscriber with it 'included' so take your misinformation elsewhere.

That was an absolutely notional deduction offered to people who claimed it, based on perceived value.
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£9.25 a month is what so called free BT Sports costs VM customers at a minimum. A bargain if you're a sports fan, but not if you aren't.
Richard, you get National League football. Massive teams like Wrexham, Hartlepool and Notts County, what more do you want !? Beats the pants off the Premiership..
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Richard, you get National League football. Massive teams like Wrexham, Hartlepool and Notts County, what more do you want !? Beats the pants off the Premiership..
In fairness, Wrexham is owned by two Hollywood stars (Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney).
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