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Old 11-01-2021, 14:46   #2416
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I'm not painting anyone in a good light, I'm stating the simple fact that the Democrats did not do all they could to win the 2016 election and your post does not speak to this point. Did the Democrats phone up asking for more votes to be found? No. Did they encourage their supporters to march on Capitol Hill? No. Did Hillary Clinton Tweet before and after the 2016 election that it was stolen from her? No.
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Old 11-01-2021, 15:00   #2417
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Anyway, back to more current events...

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Every Deleted Parler Post, Many With Users' Location Data, Has Been Archived

In the wake of the violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol by scores of President Trump’s supporters, a lone researcher began an effort to catalogue the posts of social media users across Parler, a platform founded to provide conservative users a safe haven for uninhibited “free speech” — but which ultimately devolved into a hotbed of far-right conspiracy theories, unchecked racism, and death threats aimed at prominent politicians.

The researcher, who asked to be referred to by their Twitter handle, @donk_enby, began with the goal of archiving every post from January 6, the day of the Capitol riot; what she called a bevy of “very incriminating” evidence. According to the Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensic Research Lab, among others, Parler is one of a number of apps used by the insurrections to coordinate their breach of the Capitol, in a plan to overturn the 2020 election results and keep Donald Trump in power.
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I can link your pedantry.
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BREAKING: German Chancellor, Angela Merkel calls Trump's permanent Twitter ban 'problematic' and says freedom of opinion is a fundamental right According to Daily Mail U.S
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BREAKING: German Chancellor, Angela Merkel calls Trump's permanent Twitter ban 'problematic' and says freedom of opinion is a fundamental right According to Daily Mail U.S
Yeah but she's part of the EU Superstate crooked conspiracy, we wouldn't want start listening to her would we ?
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BREAKING: German Chancellor, Angela Merkel calls Trump's permanent Twitter ban 'problematic' and says freedom of opinion is a fundamental right According to Daily Mail U.S
If someone important doesn't follow the rules of an influential social media platform, then if those rules aren't enforced then there's no point in having them.

The problematical issue is who decides the rules have been broken. If it's not the site owners, who is it?

He still access to the POTUS account though.
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Yeah but she's part of the EU Superstate crooked conspiracy, we wouldn't want start listening to her would we ?
She’s East German, so she has lived experience of censorship as well as the awkward family history shared with all her compatriots. It doesn’t necessarily make her right, but it means we should listen very carefully.
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Yeah but she's part of the EU Superstate crooked conspiracy, we wouldn't want start listening to her would we ?
Stop trolling Mr K. I’m not playing your stupid bullshit games.

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I’m not sure they ever expected that to get through quickly. It looks like a ruse to force Republicans to protect Trump. The real strategy seems to be to take their time, let Biden get his feet under the table and do his first 100 days thing, then move on impeachment after that. They can’t eject him from office obviously, but if they succeed they can disqualify him from running again.
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Biden himself seems lukewarm on the idea as well. I don't think he wants it intruding on his Presidency.

The best idea seems to be a censure on his behaviour over the election results and then move on.
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I’m not sure they ever expected that to get through quickly. It looks like a ruse to force Republicans to protect Trump. The real strategy seems to be to take their time, let Biden get his feet under the table and do his first 100 days thing, then move on impeachment after that. They can’t eject him from office obviously, but if they succeed they can disqualify him from running again.
They won't be able to do that either, it is a further judgement "after" impeachment conviction in the Senate, a conviction requires two thirds majority in the Senate, there isn't the numbers there.

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Biden himself seems lukewarm on the idea as well. I don't think he wants it intruding on his Presidency.

The best idea seems to be a censure on his behaviour over the election results and then move on.
Would it be good strategically for the Democrats to let the pro-Trump and anti-Trump factions in the Republican Party fight each other on who will contest the 2024 election?

Barring Trump from standing for office via swift impeachment would only unify the Republican Party and enable it to rally around a non-Trump candidate.

If they do have another go at impeaching Trump, the closer to 2024 the better I would think, in order to cause maximum inconvenience to the Republican Party.
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Would it be good strategically for the Democrats to let the pro-Trump and anti-Trump factions in the Republican Party fight each other on who will contest the 2024 election?

Barring Trump from standing for office via swift impeachment would only unify the Republican Party and enable it to rally around a non-Trump candidate.

If they do have another go at impeaching Trump, the closer to 2024 the better I would think, in order to cause maximum inconvenience to the Republican Party.
They cannot ban Trump running for office again they would have to succeed impeachment and only after then, make an additional judgment on banning him, it just won't happen without a heap of Republicans siding with the Democrats.

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They cannot ban Trump running for office again they would have to succeed impeachment and only after then, make an additional judgment on banning him, it just won't happen without a heap of Republicans siding with the Democrats.
Right, the 100-day wait but no longer makes sense then.

Try and impeach Trump once he's been selected would only unite the Republican Party behind him.
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