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Old 08-01-2021, 22:47   #2326
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Yes but they have their own necks to save, when it comes to midterms, they would need to keep Trump base intact and don't forget that is 75 Million Republican votes, the highest amount they have ever had for a sitting president.
The bean counters are FiveThirtyEight reckon that down ballot Republicans outperformed Trump when you look at their performance in Senate races and House races.

While Trump has a base - not all 75 million Republican voters are his base. While the whole Democrat controlled House is up for election itís only 1/3 of the Senate in 2022. That said with the Senate 50/50 I doubt Trump voters are going to stay home in 2022. Too much to lose to give a Biden/Harris administration four years of controlling Congress.
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Old 08-01-2021, 22:48   #2327
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He kinda does.


So basically the Secretary would have to act illegally to stop an attack order.
I imagine they would slow walk it to get the 25h enacted first and/or just take their chances that the next administration wouldn't press charges for their failure to act.
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Old 08-01-2021, 22:49   #2328
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So basically the Secretary would have to act illegally to stop an attack order.
Yeah but no president can start a war all by himself, he can only act in a defensive posture, so if the US is under sudden attack, he can order a strike back in a emergency, he cannot just start wars without Congressional approval. Trump may be the Commander and Chief of the U.S Army but just cannot start a war on his own volition by firing off a nuke or two somewhere.
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Yeah but no president can start a war all by himself, he can only act in a defensive posture, so if the US is under sudden attack, he can order a strike back in a emergency, he cannot just start wars without Congressional approval. Trump may be the Commander and Chief of the U.S Army but just cannot start a war on his own volition by firing off a nuke or two somewhere.
The President can order a nuclear attack without congress theoretically.
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Yes but they have their own necks to save, when it comes to midterms, they would need to keep Trump base intact and don't forget that is 75 Million Republican votes, the highest amount they have ever had for a sitting president.
And 81 million is more than any other Presidential candidate had got. Well done Joe !

The Republicans might have lost a few of their 75 million over the last few days. Well done Donald !

Mind you Donnie got 3 million votes less than Clinton in 2016... Go figure... Lying, thieving Republicans
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And 81 million is more than any other Presidential candidate had got. Well done Joe !

The Republicans might have lost a few of their 75 million over the last few days. Well done Donald !

Mind you Donnie got 3 million votes less than Clinton in 2016... Go figure... Lying, thieving Republicans
Hence why I said "sitting", Biden is not yet a sitting president and once he is, he would need to maintain his 81 Million in 4 years time, if he lives or is in office that long.

3 Million votes less, but Trump won more States in 2016, that's how Electoral College rolls because we cannot have people in California and New York just decide who they want for president and ignore the middle bits of the U.S can we?
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3 Million votes less, but Trump won more States in 2016, that's how Electoral College rolls because we cannot have people in California and New York just decide who they want for president and ignore the middle bits of the U.S can we?
Sounds alright to me. 1 person, 1 vote. People get to vote, not land mass.
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And 81 million is more than any other Presidential candidate had got. Well done Joe !

The Republicans might have lost a few of their 75 million over the last few days. Well done Donald !

Mind you Donnie got 3 million votes less than Clinton in 2016... Go figure... Lying, thieving Republicans
It should be record votes every election as the population of the USA grows each year.

Since 1970, it's grown by some 50%.

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Hence why I said "sitting", Biden is not yet a sitting president and once he is, he would need to maintain his 81 Million in 4 years time, if he lives or is in office that long.

3 Million votes less, but Trump won more States in 2016, that's how Electoral College rolls because we cannot have people in California and New York just decide who they want for president and ignore the middle bits of the U.S can we?
Never understood that logic. Surely your vote should count the same no matter where you live? Our system isn't much better..

At least Donnie energised the electorate. I'm sure the losing Georgia senators are grateful
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Never understood that logic. Surely your vote should count the same no matter where you live? Our system isn't much better..

At least Donnie energised the electorate. I'm sure the losing Georgia senators are grateful
They lost by very minute amounts.

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It should be record votes every election as the population of the USA grows each year.

Since 1970, it's grown by some 50%.
I disagree.

That would not be fair on the rust belt would it, hence why Electoral College exists.
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Old 08-01-2021, 23:37   #2336
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Sounds alright to me. 1 person, 1 vote. People get to vote, not land mass.
Sounds alright to me too. Why should clumped together people count less than spread out people?
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They lost by very minute amounts.
Thatís American politics all over though - Bush won by 537 votes in Florida in 2000 but itís a winner take all environment over states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia and Florida.

75 million votes in the wrong part of the country when 80 million in the right parts vote against you lead to defeat.
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House Democrats are currently planning to introduce articles of impeachment against President Trump as soon as Monday, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/liv...m_source=twCNN
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Can you impeach an ex-president ?
Doesnt seem like they have enough time otherwise.
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Can you impeach an ex-president ?
Doesnt seem like they have enough time otherwise.
Iirc you can
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