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Old 30-03-2017, 20:42   #2806
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Nicola Sturgeon writes to PM requesting a second Scottish independence referendum

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon will tell Theresa May in a letter that they need to make a start on arrangements for an independence referendum.

the full text of the letter to be made public on Friday.

http://news.sky.com/story/nicola-stu...endum-10818701
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Old 30-03-2017, 20:51   #2807
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Nicola Sturgeon writes to PM requesting a second Scottish independence referendum

Scotland's First Minister Nicola Sturgeon will tell Theresa May in a letter that they need to make a start on arrangements for an independence referendum.

the full text of the letter to be made public on Friday.

http://news.sky.com/story/nicola-stu...endum-10818701
hope the reply goes public
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Old 30-03-2017, 21:36   #2808
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the full text of the letter to be made public on Friday.]
Once they've translated it and removed all the expletives?
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Old 02-04-2017, 12:27   #2809
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Spain drops plan to impose veto if Scotland tries to join EU
Spain has said it would not veto an attempt by an independent Scotland to join the EU, in a boost to Nicola Sturgeonís campaign for a second independence referendum and the clearest sign yet that Brexit has softened Madridís longstanding opposition.
Alfonso Dastis, the Spanish foreign minister, made it clear that the government would not block an independent Scotlandís EU hopes, although he stressed that Madrid would not welcome the disintegration of the UK.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ies-to-join-eu
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This is surprising given their own problem in Catalonia. I am thinking that that Brussels is behind this to increase the pressure on the UK
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Old 02-04-2017, 14:29   #2811
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Oh i gaurantee there is brussels mischief playing a part here and spain wouldn't do this without some form of agreement safeguarding their position. Fact is though it's only the SNP and their fanatics that want another indyref.
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Old 03-04-2017, 11:52   #2812
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This is surprising given their own problem in Catalonia. I am thinking that that Brussels is behind this to increase the pressure on the UK
Scotland gets to join the EU, Spain gets to veto Gibraltar arrangements.
In reality, nothing will happen on either front but the Governments of Spain and Scotland will increase their popularity. Job done.

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Old 03-04-2017, 22:47   #2813
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Oh i gaurantee there is brussels mischief playing a part here and spain wouldn't do this without some form of agreement safeguarding their position. Fact is though it's only the SNP and their fanatics that want another indyref.
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Old 22-01-2019, 16:46   #2814
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

62% of Scottish people voted to stay in the EU. I suspect that if we leave without a deal that this will reignite calls for another referendum for Scotland to become independent and rejoin the EU.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/...rendum/results

I'm not sure if leaving with a deal would be acceptable to the Scottish population or not or if this would be enough to make another referendum unviable due to lack of support.

If this happens, wouldn't there be the same hard boarder issues that NI and the ROI are currently facing?
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Old 22-01-2019, 16:57   #2815
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

I think if we leave Europe it will make independence easier this time around. I think Scotland would get it.

This time there will be no arguments of what currency we will be using!
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Old 22-01-2019, 17:04   #2816
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Without wishing to stifle debate, all I can say is that Scottish politics is very hard to read from the outside, and that folks elsewhere in the U.K. almost invariably overestimate the general level of support for independence or for a second referendum (and believe it or not the issues are not identical). They also tend to regard Nicola Sturgeon more highly than the Scottish electorate. Here, she’s marmite, and it’s not a 50/50 split.

The SNP, and Sturgeon in particular, has been trying to use the EU referendum to stoke up support for a second Scottish referendum ever since 2016 but in Scotland nothing that has happened since then to make it more likely that a referendum will take place, let alone succeed. Sturgeon has been threatening to clarify her proposed timetable “soon” for almost a year now. In many ways she’s like Teresa May, continually kicking the can down the road and hoping something will turn up to get her out of the hole she’s talked herself into.

She’s not actually a complete imbecile, but she leads a party of imbeciles. She knows that a referendum called too soon will be lost and will ruin the cause for the long term. Many of her party, on the other hand, are riled up, woad-faced bravehearts who think, despite all the evidence, that free-dumb is there for the taking.
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Old 22-01-2019, 21:02   #2817
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

I hope we never become Independent in Scotland , Nicola and her clan are bad enough to put up with as it is, she would love to treat us like robots, she loves dictating to us all the time, She does not speak for the whole of Scotland
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Old 22-01-2019, 21:14   #2818
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

The trouble NS wants independance fro the UK and to be in the EU.


Trouble is she cannot have both.

Even if we voted to remain and she got her independace she would also be leaving the EU, and would have to apply to join the EU, and they don't have the money to be in the EU.
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The trouble NS wants independance fro the UK and to be in the EU.


Trouble is she cannot have both.

Even if we voted to remain and she got her independace she would also be leaving the EU, and would have to apply to join the EU, and they don't have the money to be in the EU.
There are far poorer countries in the EU than Scotland.
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There are far poorer countries in the EU than Scotland.
But not with an 8% deficit(that includes oil revenues). It has to be below 3% before any process can start.

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The latest Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland (Gers) data for Scotland shows that for 2017-18 overall state spending hit £73.4bn compared to tax income of just under £60bn, including oil revenues. That left a deficit for the year of £13.4bn, compared with £13.5bn the year before. Scotlandís deficit was equivalent to 7.9% of GDP, while for the UK as a whole it was 1.9%.
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