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Old 12-01-2021, 10:45   #556
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Re: Doctor Who

Bond's masculinity is inherent to the character so they can't (or at least shouldn't) recast the character as a woman. I don't see the problem with him being recast as black at all though, there is nothing about the character that requires him to be white. It's more important he remains a British character than a white one.
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I stopped watching after Matt Smith left. The series just lost it's sparkle.
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Bond's masculinity is inherent to the character so they can't (or at least shouldn't) recast the character as a woman. I don't see the problem with him being recast as black at all though, there is nothing about the character that requires him to be white. It's more important he remains a British character than a white one.
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Old 12-01-2021, 16:19   #559
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Bond's masculinity is inherent to the character so they can't (or at least shouldn't) recast the character as a woman. I don't see the problem with him being recast as black at all though, there is nothing about the character that requires him to be white. It's more important he remains a British character than a white one.
Apparently Ian Flemming drew a picture of Bond, in which he is clearly a white male.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_...rary_character)
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Old 12-01-2021, 16:43   #560
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Apparently Ian Flemming drew a picture of Bond, in which he is clearly a white male.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_...rary_character)
But why stick to that? It's not a key character trait. If whiteness was an inherit part of his story or interaction with the world then maybe but Bond doesn't real with race. It's as relevant to the character as the colour of his hair or his accent.

Bond has changed actor and appearance several times over 50 years. I don't think changing race matters at all.
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Bond has changed actor and appearance several times over 50 years. I don't think changing race matters at all.
I am not a Bond fan but I believed it was widely accepted that 007 was an intelligence service designation and not unique to any one individual and explains why we have had many different actors over the years. Operatives come and come go and there will naturally be a next 007.
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I am not a Bond fan but I believed it was widely accepted that 007 was an intelligence service designation and not unique to any one individual and explains why we have had many different actors over the years. Operatives come and come go and there will naturally be a next 007.
His name isn't 007 though...
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Yes but they have all been James Bond until this next film which will have a totally new character who is a black woman taking over the mantle as 007.
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His name isn't 007 though...
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I think either that rumour is off base or he rebecomes 007 by the end of the film though
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Old 12-01-2021, 23:08   #566
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No, I think the plan all along with Craig in the role has been to reboot and do a complete story arc. That’s why they fought so hard to get the rights to do Casino Royale, and to get back the rights to use SPECTRE. They’re not going to do a Roger Moore and keep pretending he’s not getting too old to be convincing in the role. I think this is Craig’s swan song and I think it’s also Bond’s final outing in this iteration of the franchise. When they re-cast Bond I think they’ll re-set again.
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But why stick to that?
Because that's what the character of Jame Bond is.

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Bond has changed actor and appearance several times over 50 years. I don't think changing race matters at all.
Of course actor [and therefore appearance] has changed, changing the race of a character is something entirely different.
If the character was simply 007 rather than James Bond, that would be different, but its not.

Either way, its nothing more than speculation atm.
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Errrrrr So is the next reincarnation of the Doctor going to be 007?

Should shake things up having a womanising, gun toting, licenced to kill guy in the Tardis. Maybe they will add a garage door to the rear of the tardis for his Aston Martin and his next companion could even be Q.
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Errrrrr So is the next reincarnation of the Doctor going to be 007?

Should shake things up having a womanising, gun toting, licenced to kill guy in the Tardis. Maybe they will add a garage door to the rear of the tardis for his Aston Martin and his next companion could even be Q.
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No, I think the plan all along with Craig in the role has been to reboot and do a complete story arc. That’s why they fought so hard to get the rights to do Casino Royale, and to get back the rights to use SPECTRE. They’re not going to do a Roger Moore and keep pretending he’s not getting too old to be convincing in the role. I think this is Craig’s swan song and I think it’s also Bond’s final outing in this iteration of the franchise. When they re-cast Bond I think they’ll re-set again.
I think you're probably right, and it is the right way to go about it. I think every Bond should exist in his own universe. That would also put an end to recurring actors playing the same roles with different bonds, such as Q, M, Moneypenny etc.
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