Election 2019 - Week 2

[Carth]

Am I right in thinking most of the recent 'discussion' concerns the pros & cons of bringing public transport back into public ownership?

I'd vote yes if we could go back to proper locomotives, big powerful beasts blowing smoke and steam, pulling those fancy carriages with separate compartments and comfy seats.

oh well, I can dream I suppose.

Funny how everything changes . . apart from politics

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by denphone

The TOC Southern the govenment and the unions have all had years to sort out these problems but of course its the commuters who end up taking the full brunt with poor unsatistactory services prevelant throughout those years.

Governments , Southern and the unions are all to blame at the end of the day but still its alright for the commuters to bear the brunt of it all as that does not seem to matter in all this until they want to fleece the customer with its high ticket prices.

So what precisely is in the companies control, that would change anything? Nobody EVER actually offers solutions.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by nomadking

So what precisely is in the companies control, that would change anything? Nobody EVER actually offers solutions.

Surely its not beyond the wit of man when there are problems to come up with solutions unless one does not want a solution in the first place..

Originally Posted by nomadking

So what precisely is in the companies control, that would change anything? Nobody EVER actually offers solutions.

How about re-investing more of the profits in the business, providing more carriages, better services?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Carth

Am I right in thinking most of the recent 'discussion' concerns the pros & cons of bringing public transport back into public ownership?

I'd vote yes if we could go back to proper locomotives, big powerful beasts blowing smoke and steam, pulling those fancy carriages with separate compartments and comfy seats.

oh well, I can dream I suppose.

Funny how everything changes . . apart from politics :D

The same predictable campaigns full of false promises which none of the political parties ever keep l would imagine...

[Hom3r]

I'm a BP member, but the BP has stood down the candidate as my town has a large Tory majority.

So I will for the fist time vote Tory.

[Carth]

Isn't one of the solutions to build a very expensive fast route from North to South, a solution that will only satisfy those who can afford the (probably) high fares to use it?

oh, and who is paying for that may I ask?

[Hom3r]

There have been reports of student who can vote bragging that they will vote Labour twice.


What we need is this, we are in the 21st century FFS.
Issue ID cards no ID card no vote.

You can go in to any voting station, this will help people who work out their area.

You put your card into the machine it knows where you are registered to vote and you vote.

If you have registered to vote by post you will not be able to vote.

If you think you vote is secret think again.

When you vote they take your name and address, a give a code to the person next to them say C8.

This is written on a counter foil of the voting slip, which if you look has a series of holes which will match your voting slip, so they can tell who you voted and if you spoilt your paper.

The added advantage is if you buy controlled items like knives, chemiclas etc this will be recorded, again no ID no sale.

There is NOT one valid arguement against them, if you have nothing to hide then you will get on.

You could even incorporate it into the driving licence, this will be cheaper.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Carth

Isn't one of the solutions to build a very expensive fast route from North to South, a solution that will only satisfy those who can afford the (probably) high fares to use it?

oh, and who is paying for that may I ask?

It is one of the solutions but alas the cost of it seems to be running out of control which as we all know is not a surprise.

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Originally Posted by Carth

Isn't one of the solutions to build a very expensive fast route from North to South, a solution that will only satisfy those who can afford the (probably) high fares to use it?

oh, and who is paying for that may I ask?

l will give you three guesses although a intelligent man like yourself will only need one.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Hugh

How about re-investing more of the profits in the business, providing more carriages, better services?

And in what way would any of those actually reduce delays?

What profits? Not sure what the current situation is, but they have previously made losses or low amount of profits. It is the parent company that is making any profits from their other businesses.

Originally Posted by Mr K

Margaret Thatcher's Govt. negotiated more with the IRA than Corbyn ever has.

Absolute rubbish..

Thatcher did not stand with them in any capacity, she was not on their side, else why did they try to Assassinate her, by trying to blow her up during the Brighten Bombing in 1984, no she and her government were never on their side, but Corbyn was, inviting them for tea and biscuits, at the Palace of Westminster, nor did she relish their victory over the British, like Labour Shadow Home Secretary, Dianne Abbott did during their bombing campaign which killed innocent soldiers and people.

It was a "Bloody Era", that cost many innocent lives, yet years later, Shadow Chancellor, John McDonnell said "We should honour the bombs and bullets."

Then there is Corbyn siding with the Russians during their escapade to assassinate one of it's own citizens, on our soil, evidence was so apparent but Corbyn had said more time should be given.

Corbyn stands with the terrorists, he is always on their side and it is almost certain he will get rid of Trident, our Nuclear deterrent, more playing in to Russian hands.

[Ramrod]

In the past I have disagreed with but understood why some people vote labour but this time, with this collection of old school maoists, stalinists and anti-semites, I think that you have to be insane to vote for them.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

In the past I have disagreed with but understood why some people vote labour but this time, with this collection of old school maoists, stalinists and anti-semites, I think that you have to be insane to vote for them.

Well you also have to question those that vote for the sale of the NHS, tax cuts for the rich, giving our young people no hope/dead end zero hours contracts, continued privatisation of vital public sevices, secretly being funded by Russian friends and supported by Trump.
Hobson's choice ?

[Carth]

Has anyone mentioned Crime & Punishment yet?

Originally Posted by Ramrod

In the past I have disagreed with but understood why some people vote labour but this time, with this collection of old school maoists, stalinists and anti-semites, I think that you have to be insane to vote for them.

Completely agree 1000%

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Well you also have to question those that vote for the sale of the NHS, tax cuts for the rich, giving our young people no hope/dead end zero hours contracts, continued privatisation of vital public sevices, secretly being funded by Russian friends and supported by Trump.
Hobson's choice ?

More fake information from you - give up telling porkies Man, it is not working, given the Tories are doing very well via our own polling.