President Trump 2.0

[Sephiroth]

Imo, it'll all backfire on Trump. He cannot crap on the rest of the world and expect to get away with it. His victims will eventually get their shit together within their various blocs and, if he doesn't bend, a trade war with the USA seems likely and nobody will buy the USA's stuff. At least that's how human nature sees it. Then there's the ludicrous politicians - everywhere ......

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Imo, it'll all backfire on Trump. He cannot crap on the rest of the world and expect to get away with it. His victims will eventually get their shit together within their various blocs and, if he doesn't bend, a trade war with the USA seems likely and nobody will buy the USA's stuff. At least that's how human nature sees it. Then there's the ludicrous politicians - everywhere ......

There is the small but tantalising possibility that a couple of congressional by-elections coming up in Florida could derail his programme, if he loses both, because when the two other vacancies (both previously Dem seats) are filled he is possibly looking at a wafer-thin majority that is vulnerable. Even if things stay as they are for now, his majority is small enough he is likely to lose control of at least one house, and possibly both, at the mid terms, which is probably why he’s in such indecent haste today.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Imo, it'll all backfire on Trump. He cannot crap on the rest of the world and expect to get away with it. His victims will eventually get their shit together within their various blocs and, if he doesn't bend, a trade war with the USA seems likely and nobody will buy the USA's stuff. At least that's how human nature sees it. Then there's the ludicrous politicians - everywhere ......

It's interesting how the various countries and blocs are reacting.

Canada is acting hard and the EU looks set to follow.

UK and Australia are negotiating with the US but indications are not positive with "Liberation Day" or "Tariff Day" nearly upon us.

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Originally Posted by Chris

There is the small but tantalising possibility that a couple of congressional by-elections coming up in Florida could derail his programme, if he loses both, because when the two other vacancies (both previously Dem seats) are filled he is possibly looking at a wafer-thin majority that is vulnerable. Even if things stay as they are for now, his majority is small enough he is likely to lose control of at least one house, and possibly both, at the mid terms, which is probably why he’s in such indecent haste today.

It was said at the onset he was moving ahead with his plans like a man possessed due to his wafer thin majority of five seats with four vacant seats.

[1andrew1]

Putin is indicating that his pet needs to be reigned in.

The Kremlin has warned Donald Trump to back off after he threatened to strike the nuclear facilities of its ally, Iran. In a televised interview, the US President threatened Ayatollah Ali Khamenei with military action and crippling economic sanctions unless Tehran comes to the negotiating table over its nuclear programme.

"If they don't make a deal, there will be bombing," Trump declared. "It will be bombing the likes of which they have never seen before." Russia - which has sought to position itself as a mediator between Washington and Tehran - warned that such an attack could have "catastrophic consequences".

Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told International Affairs: "Threats are indeed being heard, ultimatums are also being heard. We consider such methods inappropriate, we condemn them, we consider them a way for (the US) to impose its own will on the Iranian side."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...2480d442&ei=17

While Trump sits in the White House there is no reason or common sense to be had anywhere.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Maggy

While Trump sits in the White House there is no reason or common sense to be had anywhere.

In particular the Labour government who didn’t have the diplomatic nouse and fore-sense not to trash Trump as openly as they did. Payback time for those idiots (see Chagos also for details) and, unfortunately, adverse consequences for us.

[ianch99]

You have to laugh

US officials object to European push to buy weapons locally

U.S. officials have told European allies they want them to keep buying American-made arms, amid recent moves by the European Union to limit U.S. manufacturers' participation in weapons tenders, five sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.
The messages delivered by Washington in recent weeks come as the EU takes steps to boost Europe's weapons industry, while potentially limiting purchases of certain types of U.S. arms.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

In particular the Labour government who didn’t have the diplomatic nouse and fore-sense not to trash Trump as openly as they did. Payback time for those idiots (see Chagos also for details) and, unfortunately, adverse consequences for us.

They've done well subsequently but I doubt anyone can make Trump change his mind on wrecking the global economy.

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Originally Posted by ianch99

You have to laugh

US officials object to European push to buy weapons locally

The hypocrisy is large on this one.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

They've done well subsequently but I doubt anyone can make Trump change his mind on wrecking the global economy.

Have they really?

2018 Lammy: "Trump's a neo-Nazi" .

2024 Lammy: "He did offer me a second portion of chicken. He was very generous, very gracious, very keen to make sure that we felt relaxed and comfortable in his surroundings......"

Doing a wonderful job? Same applies to Starmer.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Have they really?

2018 Lammy: "Trump's a neo-Nazi" .

2024 Lammy: "He did offer me a second portion of chicken. He was very generous, very gracious, very keen to make sure that we felt relaxed and comfortable in his surroundings......"

Doing a wonderful job? Same applies to Starmer.

Theresa May was Prime Minister in 2018, so those comments were not by a Labour government.

I maintain they've done a good job subsequently on doing their best to win Trump round and many Conservatives who are no fans of Starmer acknowledge this as well. I'm no fan of Starmer but that doesn't preclude me from acknowledging when the boy's done good, the same as when I saw BoJo doing a good job in supporting Ukraine.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Theresa May was Prime Minister in 2018, so those comments were not by a Labour government.

I maintain they've done a good job subsequently on doing their best to win Trump round and many Conservatives who are no fans of Starmer acknowledge this as well. I'm no fan of Starmer but that doesn't preclude me from acknowledging when the boy's done good, the same as when I saw BoJo doing a good job in supporting Ukraine.

On Lammy, what he said about Trimp was actually worse.
See https://time.com/7000035/uk-foreign-...nazi-comments/

"Doing their best to win Trump round" really means nothing unless they succeed in being forgiven for dissing Trump back then. Is that likely? I suspect not until Trump feels they've been taught a lesson.

Starmer & co might be considered to have done a good job if we obtain a carve-out. So, let's see.

[thenry]

[mrmistoffelees]

Those American sweetie shops are going to get even more expensive ….

Probably the best we could hope for.

BTW It seems a lot of those 'what they charge us' figures are nonsense.

[1andrew1]

Vehicles imported from the UK still taxed at 25%.

I would be interested to see the Mexican and Canadian tariffs.