Madeleine McCann - Page 97

**Hugh** · 17-09-2007, 16:29

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Originally Posted by XFS03

What gets my back up about the McCanns attitude, is that they wont accept any responsibilty whatsoever. Up to this day they still say they are 100% blameless....snip...

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

I think XFS03 has hit the nail on the head it is their continuing declaration they have done nothing wrong that has riled so many people and heightened the anger in some. This whole neglect thing would have gone away a lot faster if they had just turned round and said "we made a mistake we did something we shouldn't have done but we never thought anything would happen" i think most people would then leave the matter alone but to be so bullish abut doing nothing wrong has made the mess that exists now..

You mean like this - BBC
"Mrs McCann has expressed her regret at leaving her children alone in their holiday apartment while she and her husband Gerry had dinner within the Ocean Club complex on the night Madeleine disappeared.
"We are just so desperately sorry. Every hour now, I still question, 'Why did I think that was safe?'," she said."

Or this
"Kate McCann said in interviews published Sunday in Britain that she is haunted with guilt over leaving the girl alone while she and her husband went to dinner ."

Saaf_laandon_mo · 17-09-2007, 16:33

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Originally Posted by Chris T

... Yep, as was every rape victim who ever walked down the street in a short skirt.

Where has anyone said they deserved to have their kid snatched? Are you trying to say that those of us that say they acted negligantly are also saying that women in short skirts deserved to be raped?

I find your comparison in bad taste frankly and the post is an insult to the intelligence of the posters on here that are of the opinion that the McCaans acted negligently.

Can you not distinguish between the difference of saying that parents are negligent for leaving their kids alone at home every night whilst on holiday, to that, of a woman wearing a short skirt deserves to be raped? Its not the same and you know it.

Saddens me that intelligent posters on here go to that level.

Mr_love_monkey · 17-09-2007, 16:33

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Originally Posted by Chris T

... Yep, as was every rape victim who ever walked down the street in a short skirt.

surely though, in this day and age it's about limiting the risks?
If I wander around a rough part of town waving a wad of cash around, it's only going to be a matter of time before someone hits me over the head for it.
I _should_ be able to go where I want to, and feel safe, but with the world the way it is today, you can't do that - and whist I don't think you can say someone was 'asking' for a crime (whether it be a mugging, or a robbery), a lot of life these days is about not exposing yourself, or your loved ones to excess risk.

**Chris** · 17-09-2007, 16:35

True. But at the end of the day, who committed the crime, the rapist, or the one who was raped?

17-09-2007, 16:35

Well the only things i have heard which came from family and friends and the mc'canns themselves were that they did not feel they had done anything wrong. That was repeated many times for quite a while so maybe this new approach is because there has been such a backlash or maybe the new pr people are earning their crusts.

**Hugh** · 17-09-2007, 16:37

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Well the only things i have heard which came from family and friends and the mc'canns themselves were that they did not feel they had done anything wrong. That was repeated many times for quite a while so maybe this new approach is because there has been such a backlash or maybe the new pr people are earning their crusts.

It's over a month old. (Fox, August 7th)

TheNorm · 17-09-2007, 16:38

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

Where has anyone said they deserved to have their kid snatched? ....

I wouldn't put it so bluntly - it is more a "shift of focus" from the main issue.

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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey

surely though, in this day and age it's about limiting the risks? ...

The more we "limit the risks", the more the bad guys win.

There was an awful lot of anger directed to the McCann's, which should have been directed to the people responsible for the abduction.

**Chris** · 17-09-2007, 16:38

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Well the only things i have heard which came from family and friends and the mc'canns themselves were that they did not feel they had done anything wrong. That was repeated many times for quite a while so maybe this new approach is because there has been such a backlash or maybe the new pr people are earning their crusts.

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

It's over a month old.

All of which serves to underline the point being made by that Times wifey this morning - the folly of trial by gossip and rumour which has been going on in this thread and dozens like it all over the internet.

17-09-2007, 16:39

Chris i think you know only too well that no one on here is even remotely thinking like that. If she has been abducted then of course ultimate blame lies with the abductor. But at the end of the day people can only be abducted if the oppurtunity allows it and routinely leaving anyone that is vulnerable is a stupid thing to do sadly sicko's live i our society and will take notice of chances to do what they want. Would maddie have been abducted if she had not been left alone in that apartment

mrmistoffelees · 17-09-2007, 16:41

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...284393,00.html

Sky again as usual so potentially sentationalism (sp?) but.......

Saaf_laandon_mo · 17-09-2007, 16:41

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Originally Posted by Chris T

True. But at the end of the day, who committed the crime, the rapist, or the one who was raped?

In the case of the McCanns there are people who think they acted negligently and MAddie was abducted, as well as others who think they might be invoved in the dissapearance. Those who only believe they acted negilgently are not saying, as far as I am aware, that they deserved for their daughter to be abducted. They are not saying they are guilty of their kid being taken away.

So the rapist analogy isn't relevant. I dont see anyone here posting saying that the McCanns desrved what happened to them, maybe you can tell me otherwise. What people are saying is that they did act negligantly, I do not think that can be questioned and as a result Maddie is gone.

If you dont agree that their actions whilst on holiday is irresponsible or not negligent then thats your perogative. But to make assumptions of what we are thinking by comparing it with the comparisons that you have used is unwarranted and shows that you lack an understanding of what we are saying.

TheNorm · 17-09-2007, 16:42

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

.... But at the end of the day people can only be abducted if the oppurtunity allows it ...

So we shouldn't allow children to play outside the house? To cycle to school? To get on a bus?

17-09-2007, 16:45

Not if you have doubt that they are safe NO. But what people do in their home town or city is different to going abroad and taking a risk. So you think it was ok for them to go off all\most nights leaving the kids alone you think thats an acceptable risk ??? it is something you would do ???.

mrmistoffelees · 17-09-2007, 16:47

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Not if you have doubt that they are safe NO. But what people do in their home town or city is different to going abroad and taking a risk. So you think it was ok for them to go off all\most nights leaving the kids alone you think thats an acceptable risk ??? it is something you would do ???.

How is it different to let your kids go out sight in this country and another country ? Sorry, I fail to see a difference, perhaps you can enlighten me ?

**Hugh** · 17-09-2007, 16:49

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Not if you have doubt that they are safe NO. But what people do in their home town or city is different to going abroad and taking a risk. So you think it was ok for them to go off all\most nights leaving the kids alone you think thats an acceptable risk ??? it is something you would do ???.

No I don't and I wouldn't, and my first (and many since) post on this thread stated I believed they were negligent in doing this.

But posters are, like the newspapers, makings statements based on supposition rather than facts.

We had "they wont accept any responsibilty" and "it is their continuing declaration they have done nothing wrong", and when it was pointed out that they had, in fact, said how guilty and sorry they were, it was assumed they had only just done it, when in fact it was over a month before (it may have been before that, but I just took the first two I found).