Madeleine McCann

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

If you read that article carefully you'll see that it was every night (as stated by Patricia McCann - a sister).

Further more....
Relatives of the couple revealed that the McCanns and three other couples on holiday with them, all doctors, tucked their children into bed each night and walked the 40 yards from their apartments at the Ocean Club run by British tour operators, Mark Warner in Praia da Luz on the Algarve to a poolside tapas bar.

whole bloody posse of well educated idiots there then

[Pierre]

I suppose the parents from this incident last year are to blame for not locking the door.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/child/stor...676508,00.html

Apparantly they were guilty of not locking the door on several occasions.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I suppose the parents from this incident last year are to blame for not locking the door.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/child/stor...676508,00.html

Apparantly they were guilty of not locking the door on several occasions.

What the...........

Hopefully the ending will be the same girl returned alive.

[TheNorm]

Here's a question: who are worse, parents who leave their children alone for a few hours (putting them at risk of abduction) or parents who do not have their children immunised against measles (putting them at risk of death)?

I wonder how many parents in the second category have been charged with child abuse.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

We can go down that route of questions for ages.... The point people are making is that there should be no doubt that leaving kids alone (where the eldest is 4) consistently while you go out for a meal is negligent. We are talking about the McCanns. Were they negligent? In my opinion, yes they were. What others do has nothing to do with the argument.

[TheNorm]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

We can go down that route of questions for ages.... .

My point is that some people seem to be blaming the McCanns for what happened, as if they were "asking for it" (an abduction) to happen. These same people will probably not say anything if a non-immunised child dies after catching measles.

Originally Posted by TheNorm

My point is that some people seem to be blaming the McCanns for what happened, as if they were "asking for it" (an abduction) to happen. These same people will probably not say anything if a non-immunised child dies after catching measles.

Well actually I would, but thats more my dislike of ignoring the professional view of scientists and doctors in favor of people who know nothing.

Although I do not think the McCanns were asking for it. I just dont think they deserve to have so much media time. The fact that people go missing all the time yet in my town they put McCann posters up is a disgrace. More benefit would have been done if they put pictures of local missing children up, but because the media deemed this case special, people have given them special treatment they would not afford anyone else.

Its hypocritical. I understand why people care, the fact that they can relate and a lot of attention has been given to it, but it is wrong of the media is use this case to sell papers and send people into a emotional frenzy.

And now the papers are telling the public they are wrong to judge the McCanns? This whole thing is media driven, they put them in the spotlight, they made the mass-hysteria, then were the ones to start judging the McCanns! and once the backlash against the backlash happened then turn around and have a go at the public mood that they created!

Originally Posted by TheNorm

My point is that some people seem to be blaming the McCanns for what happened, as if they were "asking for it" (an abduction) to happen...

What gets my back up about the McCanns attitude, is that they wont accept any responsibilty whatsoever. Up to this day they still say they are 100% blameless.

It was discussed at great length near the beginning of this thread, that it wasn't just the threat of abduction, but what other things could have happened to those children while they were left on their own.

If, instead of abducting Madeleine, the alleged intruder had taken cash, goods etc. from the apartment, would their insurance company had paid out? No, they wouldn't because the McCanns would have been negligent by leaving the doors unlocked. They would have aided the intruder by their negligence.

I think XFS03 has hit the nail on the head it is their continuing declaration they have done nothing wrong that has riled so many people and heightened the anger in some. This whole neglect thing would have gone away a lot faster if they had just turned round and said "we made a mistake we did something we shouldn't have done but we never thought anything would happen" i think most people would then leave the matter alone but to be so bullish abut doing nothing wrong has made the mess that exists now.

TheNorm i think you will find most parents had a problem with the triple vaccination not the single and that most children are immunised just not how the government of the day would have liked it done. That like this situation was made a hundred times worse by the press.

Originally Posted by Damien

...And now the papers are telling the public they are wrong to judge the McCanns? This whole thing is media driven, they put them in the spotlight, they made the mass-hysteria, then were the ones to start judging the McCanns! and once the backlash against the backlash happened then turn around and have a go at the public mood that they created!

I agree...and don't forget, the papers never lie. From the link posted earlier:-
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2459924.ece

"...I don’t for once mean the (British) press, which seems to me, despite its inevitable mawkish descents into sentimentality, to have acted pretty responsibly. The press has urged caution, expressed compassion and been reluctant to judge the McCanns...
...Despite popular thinking about journalists “making things up�, the traditional media are regulated. Things have to stand up from every angle. Facts matter. We have lawyers; we try not to libel or slander; to keep objective..."

So everything you read in the papers is true. I will retract all my pinches of salt.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

I think XFS03 has hit the nail on the head it is their continuing declaration they have done nothing wrong that has riled so many people and heightened the anger in some. This whole neglect thing would have gone away a lot faster if they had just turned round and said "we made a mistake we did something we shouldn't have done but we never thought anything would happen" i think most people would then leave the matter alone but to be so bullish abut doing nothing wrong has made the mess that exists now.

Totally agree. What really annoyed me was when family members came on the TV saying that leaving kids alone was no different to eating in the garden, that they did it all the time so it was ok etc etc etc....

They took no responsibility for anything whatsoever. I know people greif in different ways, but saying they had done nothing wrong was saying "Yeah its ok to leave kids alone at night whilst we're out wining and dining"

[TheNorm]

Originally Posted by XFS03

What gets my back up about the McCanns attitude....

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

...it is their continuing declaration they have done nothing wrong that has riled so many people ....

I understand the sentiment, but nevertheless the real issue is that a little girl was abducted and has not been found.

To use the analogy of the burgled house, I can imagine a thief justifying his actions by saying "they were asking for it, they left the door unlocked."

... Yep, as was every rape victim who ever walked down the street in a short skirt.

[TheNorm]

Originally Posted by Chris T

... Yep, as was every rape victim who ever walked down the street in a short skirt.

Exactly!