President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
15-06-2018, 19:59
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas
So I have a question (to both you and Damien), do you think the stories about Kim having people executed by 100+ dogs eating them is accurate?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...d-dogs-made-up
I personally think that it is farfetched, too but then again he is absolutely bat shit crazy.
Anti aircraft fire is bad enough...but the dogs. Umm I don't see that as a credible means of execution, even by his standards - what do you think?
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I don't know about the specific dog thing but Kim is a vast human rights abuser as were his predecessors in this family.
We're losing perspective on how bad the North Korean leadership is. There are few people as bad as them on this planet. Even Putin doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same league as them. North Korea have the closest equivalents in concentration camps/gulags we know of in the modern world. Political dissents aren't an issue because even a lack of enthusiasm for the leadership is met with swift brutality if not death.
You can find a list of what they've done on Google but two specific books: Nothing to Envy and In Order To Live and good on this. Escape from Camp 14 too which recounts stories of an entire family sent to the gulag because of his father's lack of purity and ultimate disservice to the regime. Most people died of starvation, the kid escaped.
The people outside of the cities can struggle for food. Especially if they've, on their ancestors, have been assumed to have shown a lack of respect to Dear Leader. This video here shows a young woman looking for food ( it's hard to watch. so you've been warned): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzTC31JA7DY
America has to deal with him for everyone's safety but let's never forget who he is.
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15-06-2018, 21:41
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas
So I have a question (to both you and Damien), do you think the stories about Kim having people executed by 100+ dogs eating them is accurate?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...d-dogs-made-up
I personally think that it is farfetched, too but then again he is absolutely bat shit crazy.
Anti aircraft fire is bad enough...but the dogs. Umm I don't see that as a credible means of execution, even by his standards - what do you think?
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I don’t believe there is enough documented evidence to confirm that, which is why I omitted it.
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16-06-2018, 00:00
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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Originally Posted by Damien
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What worries me is that Steve Doocy didn't call him out on it through the interview - Fox have just turned into a propaganda network now.
Steve was a guy who practically had an orgasm when Trump mentioned him by name, on air but aside from that, forget the people Trump has the media.
Of the female anchors on Fox they certainly do not slouch on air when talking to him but do usually cross their legs / sit up when talking to him.
Ainsley is one of the most stalwart at it:
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/01/1...s-donald-trump
She seems to have good posture.
When she stands she is a little shorter than him but around my height (though she does have ridiculous heels on) but the bigger story is that Fox is all but a state run entity now:
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-frie...un-television/
However when interviewing dear leader, they really shouldn't stoop so much:
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1529103525
Tut tut.
Dear leader will not be very happy.
(Yeah, they're tools at Fox these days though I was being serious about Ainsley - she has a good pair of legs and does sit well / positions herself well for as short as she keeps her dresses - bravo. Very dignified).
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16-06-2018, 08:13
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ger-his-lawyer
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Trump says Cohen is no longer his lawyer
President Trump on Friday sought distance from Michael Cohen, his longtime personal attorney, who is under criminal investigation in New York.
“I haven’t spoken to Michael in a long time,” the president told reporters outside of the White House.
“No, he’s not my lawyer anymore, but I always liked Michael. And he’s a good person,” Trump added.
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16-06-2018, 09:37
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
I think it would be a stretch for any lawyer, to deal with any clients, when that lawyer themselves is under criminal investigation and not just any plain investigation, but one that’s got the Special Counsel behind it.
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19-06-2018, 17:14
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
America is withdrawing from the UN Human Rights Council (probably incompatible with keeping children in cages anyway)
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19-06-2018, 18:17
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
It is depressing that a President that surrounds himself with Christian Evangelists has an Attorney General that cites the Bible to justify their policy of separating immigrant children from their families at the border.
Is this just a US Reality TV show and all I need to do is change channel?
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19-06-2018, 18:18
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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America is withdrawing from the UN Human Rights Council (probably incompatible with keeping children in cages anyway)
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How the mighty have fallen...
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19-06-2018, 19:44
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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How the mighty have fallen...
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All part of making America great again...
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19-06-2018, 21:13
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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All part of making America great again...
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Great for who though, that is the question?
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19-06-2018, 21:25
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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Great for who though, that is the question?
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Americans .
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19-06-2018, 22:02
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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Americans .
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19-06-2018, 22:08
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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It is depressing that a President that surrounds himself with Christian Evangelists has an Attorney General that cites the Bible to justify their policy of separating immigrant children from their families at the border.
Is this just a US Reality TV show and all I need to do is change channel?
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No, you need to include the word ILLEGAL next to immigrants.
I see the liberal approach here to is to completely bypass the outrage at parents using their kids as leverage to break laws by crossing the borders "illegally". No surprise there then.
I certainly know and remember from the President Bush years, a special detention center, Hutto, was built to hold family units, women with children, who were caught at the border trying to illegally enter the country. BUT.... in Obama’s presidency, the center was re-purposed as an adult-only center, presumably because locking up children with the parent is, um, wrong. A shoplifter, who is a parent, doesn't get locked up with their kids. An illegal border crosser should be treated no differently.
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19-06-2018, 22:17
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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I see the liberal approach here to is to completely bypass the outrage at parents using their kids as leverage to break laws by crossing the borders "illegally". No surprise there then. .
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I think the liberal approach would be not to put kids in cages.
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I certainly know and remember from the President Bush years, a special detention center, Hutto, was built to hold family units, women with children, who were caught at the border trying to illegally enter the country. BUT.... in Obama’s presidency, the center was re-purposed as an adult-only center, presumably because locking up children with the parent is, um, wrong. A shoplifter, who is a parent, doesn't get locked up with their kids. An illegal border crosser should be treated no differently.
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A kid whose parents shoplift don't get put in a cage. Put odd to say locking up children with their parents is wrong when instead their locking up children without their parents.
Either do what they did with Obama, as bad as that policy was, and take care of them in a centre, foster care or something. Better yet do what Bush did and do the special detention centres so you can at least keep families together.
This current situation of not only separating them but putting the kids in cages, some shared with dozens of other kids, is barbaric.
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This is just sick:
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Michelle Brane, director of migrant rights at the Women’s Refugee Commission, met with a 16-year-old girl who had been taking care of a young girl for three days. The teen and others in their cage thought the girl was 2 years old.
“She had to teach other kids in the cell to change her diaper,” Brane said.
Brane said that after an attorney started to ask questions, agents found the girl’s aunt and reunited the two. It turned out that the girl was actually 4 years old. Part of the problem was that she didn’t speak Spanish, but K’iche, a language indigenous to Guatemala.
“She was so traumatized that she wasn’t talking,” Brane said. “She was just curled up in a little ball.”
Brane said she also saw officials at the facility scold a group of 5-year-olds for playing around in their cage, telling them to settle down. There are no toys or books.
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In America of all places.
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19-06-2018, 22:25
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Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
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Originally Posted by Hugh
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Oh please, I didn't see the fake outrage when Obama did a mass deportation program that actually separated parents from their kids at the time as well and Obama did catch and deport MILLIONS during his presidency, so where was the damn outrage back then FFS??
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This is just sick:
In America of all places.
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No it is not sick - they should try to enter the country LEGALLY then.
The parents have themselves to blame for using their kids to gain entry in to a country, illegally.
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