TiVo : General TiVo Discussion Part 3

[Risco]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Luckily Click is now on Mondays on BBC 2 so only get one a week now

It still records every bloody episode...including those early morning ones on BBC news.

I get the feeling TiVo has been forgotten about. Where are the feature and bug fix and UI speed updates?

Originally Posted by Risco

It still records every bloody episode...including those early morning ones on BBC news.

I get the feeling TiVo has been forgotten about. Where are the feature and bug fix and UI speed updates?

Because you haven't cancelled the BBC News series link yet?

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[andy_m]

Who provides the film ratings on the TiVo epg? The Italian Job, 2.5 stars!

[spiderplant]

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...ht/true#M10321

[MalteseFalcon]

Which one was it though? Remake deserves less than 2.5 stars, the original deserves 5 stars (or whatever top rating is).

[andy_m]

Cheers Spiderplant. It's the original on film 4 tomorrow. Genuinely stunned at the rating. I appreciate this will always be subjective but surely this is an acknowledged classic? Seriously calls in to question the credibility of the film ratings, IMO. Does anybody actually use them to make viewing decisions?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by andy_m

Cheers Spiderplant. It's the original on film 4 tomorrow. Genuinely stunned at the rating. I appreciate this will always be subjective but surely this is an acknowledged classic? Seriously calls in to question the credibility of the film ratings, IMO. Does anybody actually use them to make viewing decisions?

Summed up perfectly Andy.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by andy_m

Genuinely stunned at the rating. I appreciate this will always be subjective but surely this is an acknowledged classic? Seriously calls in to question the credibility of the film ratings, IMO

It's a classic, but a British classic. The ratings come from Tribune in the US.

It gets a lowly 7.3 at IMDb too.

[andy_m]

And yet UK customers are being asked to use them to make purchasing decisions-that's not really on, is it. Besides which, your "lowly" imdb score is actually 73%, Tribune's rating equates to just 62% - less than two thirds compared with nearly three quarters. I genuinely think the credibility of Tribune's ratings are questionable.

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On investigation, it appears that 7.3 on imdb is actually a good score. An 8 gets you in the top 250 of all time. By contrast, 2.5 stars from Tribune puts you in the same bracket as Short Circuit (6. 4 on imdb, Btw).

I never understood why they went with 4 stars, who the hell rates things out of 4?

[coulsontom]

Originally Posted by Jameseh

I never understood why they went with 4 stars, who the hell rates things out of 4?

lol, true.

It reduces the scope for distinguishing between films but even so I don't take much notice of them.

[andy_m]

Originally Posted by Jameseh

I never understood why they went with 4 stars, who the hell rates things out of 4?

This appears to be the problem. Apparently, Tribune actually rate out of 5, and do draw their ratings from imdb. Their rating for The Italian Job is actually 3.5/5, which is roughly equal to imdb's 7.3/10, and certainly closer than 62%. The issue is actually with the subsequent conversion to TiVo's 4 star rating system, which when you think about it, is a bit ridiculous. It's very easy to blame Tribune for problems with what appears on the TiVo epg but obviously it's not always down to them.

[harry_hitch]

I detest the TIVO ratings. I have decided that a movie rated 3.5 stars is going to be the equivalent of a 4/5 and 4/4 equates to 5/5. 3 stars and below are literally 3 stars and below. I base my scores on the old Empire movie magazine/website ratings. I find Empire now to be part of the hype culture of reviews now, but 5 -10 years ago, they were excellent.
I now mainly use Time Out for reviews, which are very good, but I am not fully up to speed with their reviewers.
With regards to the IMDB ratings, I find IMDB a very useful site, but it's reviews in my eyes are often suspect. If you ever read some of the bad reviews for movies you will find there is not a lot of intelligent input. Often if a story is a slow burner for 90% of the movie, people will call it boring and switch off before the "pay-off" and thus drag the score down drastically. People also find "old" movies too tame and not "exciting" enough. Take The Italian Job for example, I have not seen either (shocking I know) but a lot of people under 25 will have seen the original. These people who then watch the original MAY find the original boring/priggish/slow/rubbish just because of the cast, quality of recording, script, how tame it is in comparison and of course Noel Coward!!!. I often judge 7.2/7.3/7.4 as a good score on IMDB due to the poor reviews. Anything below these scores I will generally class as poor overall (due to the reviews from the more "intelligent" film reviewer). Sorry, got carried away there.
BAck to the point, I don't know how to improve the TIVO review system, but it looks like TMS use American orientated reviews for their scores, would VM powered by TIVO be better using British based reviews (i.e Radio Times, Empire, Total Film, Time Out etc) due to different cultures etc? Just a thought!

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