10-08-2008, 21:29
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by philj
Anyone sent a copy of the diagram to PrivateEye?
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I've sent one
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10-08-2008, 21:52
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#13622
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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10-08-2008, 21:54
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#13623
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Please don't post random links without saying what they are!
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10-08-2008, 21:57
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#13624
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Wherever that link was to Bluecar it tripped PeerGuardian and is showing as a Phorm IP
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10-08-2008, 22:09
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#13625
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
sorry, it is a beta oix site i came across
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10-08-2008, 22:16
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#13626
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by bluecar1
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Oh the Irony!
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10-08-2008, 22:20
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#13627
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by bluecar1
sorry, it is a beta oix site i came across
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At least it is UK hosted
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10-08-2008, 22:21
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#13628
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by JackSon
Oh the Irony!
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yep i know, an oix website with a phorm ssl cert but no attached dns tag so not sure where it sits in the grand plan, but probably something to do with advertisers login or channel partners
peter
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10-08-2008, 22:23
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#13629
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
RE: https://89.145.112.52/
I can't connect to it at all. Can anyone else still access it? Is it my hosts file blocking it, perhaps, or have they stopped accepting connections?
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10-08-2008, 22:26
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#13630
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by phormwatch
RE: https://89.145.112.52/
I can't connect to it at all. Can anyone else still access it? Is it my hosts file blocking it, perhaps, or have they stopped accepting connections? |
yep I get the security cert. warning
Phil
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10-08-2008, 22:28
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#13631
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Sorry, Phormwatch I can't confirm either way. I refused to accept the dodgy cert and left it at that. It is run by Gyron in London I believe, resolves to a very odd hostname of as29107.net. The dodgy cert claims it is Phorm owned so I suppose there is the possibility of it being a channel server for OIX. If you hosts file is blocking it it's probably for the best.
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10-08-2008, 22:36
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#13632
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
you get a page with a banner saying OIX and a little beta tag if you accept the dodgy cert.
the reason you get the cert error is accessing the site via ip not dns name, but the site is clearly OIX yet has a phorm cert, issued by godaddy
yet another example of good safe practices by phorm 
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10-08-2008, 22:49
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#13633
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by R Jones
Now that is timely. The article focusses on the DBERR, formerly the Department of Twiddling and Inaction/Trade and Industry. Our friends that are coming under fire from their noble Lords, the Baroness Miller and Lord Northesk. Let's hit them from the citizenry end too with FOI requests.
Good to see a ruling from the Tribunal forcing them to come clean about who lobbies them and how, and who they talk to and when etc. That is very good news for us. If Phorm is just about commercial advantage, then the DBERR can't really refuse to divulge any lobbying or conversations about the system. So the only grounds for refusal to divulge contacts between DBERR and Phorm will have to be more substantial. Which will tell us a lot.
The FOI focus needs now to focus on DBERR and what they did and didn't know about Phorm, and who they did and didn't talk to about Phorm and when.
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So - what questions should we be asking of the DBERR? I imagine that we could take the Lord's questions as a guide.
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Bump - anyone interested in giving me info for this? I'll do the donkey work and send it in. Sooner the better, hit them while they're reeling from the Tribunal ruling.
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10-08-2008, 23:06
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#13634
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Do we know if anyone met them from Phorm to attempt to slip in without legal prosicution.
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10-08-2008, 23:13
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#13635
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by R Jones
Bump - anyone interested in giving me info for this? I'll do the donkey work and send it in. Sooner the better, hit them while they're reeling from the Tribunal ruling.
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as the tribunal ruling was relating to lobbying
i would assume the best way forward is ask for details of any meeting with the three pr agencies and dberr relating to phorm or webwise
and poss a second one relating to details of any meeting with the phorm or BT and dberr relating to webwise
then home in on anything interesting you get in response
peter
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