[Update] Jeremy Corbyn wins Labour Leadership

Maybe they can get Dan Jarvis to u-turn

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

Maybe they can get Dan Jarvis to u-turn

Will he be damned for changing his mind if they do?

I'd really like to see a new face like that in charge. Maybe then Labour could be the party they should be and forget all the dinosaur policies which will never het them elected.

According to The Times tomorrow it does seem that he just hated what the past week has been like. Sounds it was really getting to him. To be honest I don't see why anyone would want that level of attention or pressure but then I wouldn't run for the leadership of a major political party (or a small one for that matter ).

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Damien

According to The Times tomorrow it does seem that he just hated what the past week has been like. Sounds it was really getting to him.

You think that he would have known that

Originally Posted by Osem

Will he be damned for changing his mind if they do?

The difference being the party members can deliver that judgement in the leadership election itself.

I'd really like to see a new face like that in charge. Maybe then Labour could be the party they should be and forget all the dinosaur policies which will never het them elected.

I think the 'party they should be' is the problem. Some want a centrist party closer to what New Labour were and others want a union-loving socialist party. It's hard to know what Labour could do.

Who is a Labour voter? Is it people working in public services? That can only get you so far. They then probably need people who are considered 'working class' in the former industrial communities where they used to be so strong but these demographics are probably better spoken to by the Tories policy on personal taxation (Lib Dem idea btw ), fuel duty freezes or UKIP and their policy on immigration.

I don't actually know to be honest.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

The difference being the party members can deliver that judgement in the leadership election itself.

I think the 'party they should be' is the problem. Some want a centrist party closer to what New Labour were and others want a union-loving socialist party. It's hard to know what Labour could do.

Who is a Labour voter? Is it people working in public services? That can only get you so far. They then probably need people who are considered 'working class' in the former industrial communities where they used to be so strong but these demographics are probably better spoken to by the Tories policy on personal taxation (Lib Dem idea btw ), fuel duty freezes or UKIP and their policy on immigration.

I don't actually know to be honest.

What you mean like the unions did with Miliband?

Labour's 'us and them' approach is out of date and does them no favours now the power of the unions isn't what it was. They rely heavily on perpetrating the simplistic notion of rich v. poor, north v. south, x v. y and people have heard it all before. Moving to the left has been a disaster but it'll take a long time before I (and I suspect many other people) will trust them again, no matter what they claim to be.

[heero_yuy]

Ed Miliband’s infamous stone, inscribed with his six election pledges, is gathering dust in a moss-covered warehouse on a windswept industrial estate.

The Mail tracked down the resting place of the 8ft 6in monolith to south London. And, in a final humiliation, the maker of the slab has admitted he was a ‘true blue’ Tory who did not vote for Mr Miliband.

Linky

So not made by a "working class" man?

Funny that the Labour party would want to keep it hidden.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Linky

So not made by a "working class" man?

Funny that the Labour party would want to keep it hidden.

Yeah odd that.

It wouldn't have surprised me if it'd been made by someone on a zero hours contract but there we are.

I'm sure its comedy value far exceeds anything else so maybe we could have a whip-round and buy it for Arthur...

[Osem]

Oh dear another Same Old Labour face has decided to quit:

Scottish Labour leader Jim Murphy is to resign next month, he has announced.

It comes despite Mr Murphy narrowly surviving a vote of no confidence at a meeting of the party's national executive in Glasgow.

Mr Murphy said he would tender his resignation alongside a plan to reform the party.

He lost his seat in last week's general election as the SNP won 56 of the 59 Scottish seats, leaving Labour with a single MP in Scotland.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-32760196

It seems a very long time ago that the usual suspects here were gleefully rejoicing at the prospect of all those evil Tories losing the seats and privileges. A week's a long time in politics eh?...

Think Murphy has been treated harshly. He inherited a dire situation and whilst he failed to turn it around it has to be said it would have proven very difficult given the momentum the SNP had.

[Osem]

Yes he inherited a mess but the NO campaign was rubbish and he paid for that too.

[Kursk]

Chuka would have been just the man we need in a crisis. Folded within 3 days. Thankfully.

[denphone]

He was too young and inexperienced to be perfectly honest and l am sure his time will come again when he is more able to handle the media intrusion.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by denphone

He was too young and inexperienced to be perfectly honest and l am sure his time will come again when he is more able to handle the media intrusion.

so they need someone old experienced and well used to the spotlight .

[denphone]

They need someone who can reach out to those many millions who did not vote for them in the General Election and sadly that person is not available currently.