Diane Abbott apologises in 'race' row

I would say 'white privilege', would refer to white people being disproportionately represented in the upper tiers of society, be that business, politics, or sport. I would have to say that I probably agree with that. A lot of it isn't intentional but is more institutionalised.

I certainly don't think there is such a thing as 'black privilege', the odd MP doesn't really count. You look around and would have to say that white males have an easier time ascending to the top than anyone else.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

I would say 'white privilege', would refer to white people being disproportionately represented in the upper tiers of society, be that business, politics, or sport. I would have to say that I probably agree with that. A lot of it isn't intentional but is more institutionalised.

I certainly don't think there is such a thing as 'black privilege', the odd MP doesn't really count. You look around and would have to say that white males have an easier time ascending to the top than anyone else.

Yeah Jack Dromey had an easy ride.... lol

Originally Posted by Osem

Yeah Jack Dromey had an easy ride.... lol

I am afraid I don't get the reference? I googled his Wikipedia page but am no clearer?

[kingll]

Originally Posted by Osem

Yeah, Ron Atkinson. I mean, he got away scot free didn't he? John Terry isn't being prosecuted and Suarez hasn't been banned either. It's a terrible white conspiracy you know.....

John Terry being prosecuted and being guilty are two differrent things.

Big Ron wasn't sacked on the spot though was as he co-commentator didn't think it was an issue nor did the production staff - he was sacked as ITV didn't like the bad publicity.

Banned not sacked and still takes home a reported £90k + salary and only three months after the incident he say sorry but will continue to say the word off the pitch.

Also you know Mr Suarez is mixed-race, next thing you'll be telling me Ryan Giggs is white

Originally Posted by Tuftus

Well said. I myself recall being brought to book trying to be sensitive by using the term 'coloured' recently.

If it is that much of a problem to use that term, maybe a list should be published of what term we should use for what race / shade etc?

I mean, surely 'coloured' is a one size fits all?

/Can of worms.

well i'm a sort of dirty creamy colour so i resent being called white

[kingll]

Originally Posted by Damien

I would say 'white privilege', would refer to white people being disproportionately represented in the upper tiers of society, be that business, politics, or sport. I would have to say that I probably agree with that. A lot of it isn't intentional but is more institutionalised.

I certainly don't think there is such a thing as 'black privilege', the odd MP doesn't really count. You look around and would have to say that white males have an easier time ascending to the top than anyone else.

I agree with your comments sir

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

I am afraid I don't get the reference? I googled his Wikipedia page but am no clearer?

IIRC he was 'parachuted' into his post as a MP in a safe seat when his wife Harriet Harman had been campaigning endlessly for all female shortlists. Odd that eh? lol

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Originally Posted by martyh

well i'm a sort of dirty creamy colour so i resent being called white

I'm a bit pink as I've had some red wine and am sitting too close to the fire....

Originally Posted by martyh

well i'm a sort of dirty creamy colour so i resent being called white

Well myself being blonde and pastey and all that... It really is just pathetic as i quoted imo.

[kingll]

Originally Posted by Pierre

she has a very privileged lifestyle, she is an MP and has the lifestyle associated with that.

Her kids are also privileged, they are middle class and attend private schools.

Do you want me to reach some more?

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Big brothers on, will return to this when my iPhones charged up

What is the lifestyle of an MP - so her being middle class and kids going private school make her privileged.

Sir, no no no

but it was a so so sweet attempt

[Stuart]

Personally, I think that we, as a people, should stop classifying people by colour. IMO, people are people. Some are attractive, some ugly. Some nice, some nasty. Some good, some evil. This applies to people of *all* colours.

And for those who think racism only goes one way, look at Zimbabwe. There is a country where the government is devoted to taking from the white man.

Originally Posted by Tuftus

Well myself being blonde and pastey and all that... It really is just pathetic as i quoted imo.

absolutely right

Originally Posted by Stuart

Personally, I think that we, as a people, should stop classifying people by colour. IMO, people are people. Some are attractive, some ugly. Some nice, some nasty. Some good, some evil. This applies to people of *all* colours.

And for those who think racism only goes one way, look at Zimbabwe. There is a country where the government is devoted to taking from the white man.

Very good points sir.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by kingll

John Terry being prosecuted and being guilty are two differrent things.

Big Ron wasn't sacked on the spot though was as he co-commentator didn't think it was an issue nor did the production staff - he was sacked as ITV didn't like the bad publicity.

Banned not sacked and still takes home a reported £90k + salary and only three months after the incident he say sorry but will continue to say the word off the pitch.

Also you know Mr Suarez is mixed-race, next thing you'll be telling me Ryan Giggs is white

Ok so John Terry being prosecuted doesn't matter, Atkinson being sacked was pure epxediency and Suarez being banned is irrelevant even though he's not black. It still all adds up to a white conspiracy..... Fancy some mayo with your chips matey?

[Russ]

Originally Posted by kingll

John Terry being prosecuted and being guilty are two differrent things.

Big Ron wasn't sacked on the spot though was as he co-commentator didn't think it was an issue nor did the production staff - he was sacked as ITV didn't like the bad publicity.

Banned not sacked and still takes home a reported £90k + salary and only three months after the incident he say sorry but will continue to say the word off the pitch.

Also you know Mr Suarez is mixed-race, next thing you'll be telling me Ryan Giggs is white

Suarez and Atkinson were dealt with, they both lost out because of their actions. Terry's situation isn't over yet so we don't know what will happen but if he's found guilty he will be dealt with too.

And Giggsy is Celtic white - I am the same.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by kingll

Diane won by 54.9 per cent of the vote cast, I can't see her losing her seat or her being deselected.

Well if there is enough pressure applied she will be deservedly sacked.