Islamic group's plan to march through Wootton Bassett

I don't see on what grounds the march should be stopped to be honest. Non-violent, and they are entitled to free speech.

[Osem]

These idiots are far less interested in marching, carrying coffins, on a very cold day in winter than they are in generating the sort of media coverage, anger and tension they've succeeded in stirring up. The news producers and editors of the UK would be doing us all a very great favour if they just ignored this pathetic group and their outpourings.

Originally Posted by Osem

These idiots are far less interested in marching, carrying coffins, on a very cold day in winter than they are in generating the sort of media coverage, anger and tension they've succeeded in stirring up. The news producers and editors of the UK would be doing us all a very great favour if they just ignored this pathetic group and their outpourings.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Damien

I don't see on what grounds the march should be stopped to be honest. Non-violent, and they are entitled to free speech.

The grounds are they have opinions and views that most people in the Uk disagree with.

[SMG]

Originally Posted by Russ

The grounds are they have opinions and views that most people in the Uk disagree with.

I dont think for one moment this march will go ahead. If it does, there is a lot of opposition out there, & a lot of people & organisations prepared to stand against it.

This must be nipped in the bud before the opposition becomes too organised.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by SMG

I dont think for one moment this march will go ahead. If it does, there is a lot of opposition out there, & a lot of people & organisations prepared to stand against it.

This must be nipped in the bud before the opposition becomes too organised.

If the BNP are permitted to march and protest then these knuckleheads must be allowed to as well.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

There will be blood spilt over this, as squaddies won't allow this, as if this is allowed to go ahead, then will be almost certainly aggro, you will have the police involved and they will protect the demonstrators - thats a certainty, and why on earth has Sky News allowed that Choudary on tv to say what he wants to say, that is totally unbeliebeble, and yet WE pay his benefits, this should be stopped.

Damien this should be stopped because somethings are just gauranteed to get violent and in this case will gain support for the likes of the bnp and suchlike so two damn good reasons to not allow this. Also honestly tell me you believe this is anything more then complete provacation from this group as marching through wootton bassett is nothing to do with policy and is politicising somewhere that has worked so hard to stay non political. Just because we are a democracy doesn't mean every malcontent has a right to do what they like and democracy comes with responsibility none of which is being shown here by these people.

Thats putting aside the fact that this group isn't just looking to march they are making statements about events they have no idea about as they are all from the UK no doubt many on benefits so what right do they have to PRETEND to know how our service people have been or are acting.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Damien this should be stopped because somethings are just gauranteed to get violent and in this case will gain support for the likes of the bnp and suchlike so two damn good reasons to not allow this. Also honestly tell me you believe this is anything more then complete provacation from this group as marching through wootton bassett is nothing to do with policy and is politicising somewhere that has worked so hard to stay non political. Just because we are a democracy doesn't mean every malcontent has a right to do what they like and democracy comes with responsibility none of which is being shown here by these people.

Thats putting aside the fact that this group isn't just looking to march they are making statements about events they have no idea about as they are all from the UK no doubt many on benefits so what right do they have to PRETEND to know how our service people have been or are acting.

Well as people on the very forum reminded us for the BNP on question time, and English Defence League marches. That is the fault of the people who react. It seems the BNP are allowed to say what they want and this group are not...

[papa smurf]

here is an update on good old andys planed march .




The hate preacher organising a march of Islamic extremists through the streets of Wootton Bassett sparked outrage today by comparing British troops fighting in Afghanistan to Nazi stormtroopers.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0bfEZctW1

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by martyh

has there been any condemnation from the muslim community or are they going to sit back and do/say nothing

Oh look condemnation from Muslims agaisnt the march, in the Mail as well

Shahid Murasaleen, from the moderate Muslim group Minhajul-Quran International UK, said: 'Extremists like these always claim to speak for Islam and British Muslims yet they are not qualified to do either. This march will achieve nothing other than to incite hate crime against innocent law-abiding Muslims.'

Pity that decent, normal people are called moderates imo lets call a spade a spade, Choudry is a nut and terrorist sympathiser, he represents no one but criminals.

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Originally Posted by Damien

I don't see on what grounds the march should be stopped to be honest. Non-violent, and they are entitled to free speech.

How about due to public saftey, I doubt the police will allow it, who wants a riot so a nut like him can score a few political points and upset a lot of people

[papa smurf]

andy speaks to sky news

http://video.news.sky.com/skynews/vi...NTV-040110.flv

[rogerdraig]

this another one where the press just make things worse

( as i got shouted at for saying my family last time i will say it different this time )

our fathers / mothers grandfathers and grandmothers fought a couple of wars to ensure we can march and shout about almost anything we want

this could be better handled either by ( if its really offensively done ) by no one turning up or just walking away from what ever route they chose

or adding in another march for all victims of what ever war terrorist attack or civil disturbance or government killings of demonstrators ( some Muslims in there in Iran ) if they are a peaceful march they could hardly object and would at the same time diminish any overtly offensive message they may be trying to give out

moaning and shouting about it really justs adds to the affect they most likely were after doing the job for them

[papa smurf]

At least two thirds of our miseries spring from human stupidity, human malice and those great motivators and justifiers of malice and stupidity, idealism, dogmatism and proselytizing zeal on behalf of religious or political idols.

Aldous Huxley:

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Damien

Well as people on the very forum reminded us for the BNP on question time, and English Defence League marches. That is the fault of the people who react. It seems the BNP are allowed to say what they want and this group are not...

Ah yes, the BNP on question time. What sticks most in my memory about that is the violent Anti Fascist demonstrators outside the BBC.

I think both sides leave a lot to be desired.

On another point, has anyone seen the Youtube footage of the Islamic march in Newport last week?

It was very interesting to see the police officer stopping the filming of the march after the request of a muslim marcher. The officer could not give the reason to stop the filming, and appeared to be very confused. But she did exactly what the muslim woman asked her to do.