"Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime"

[punky]

His sentence was quashed on Friday when the court noted that bus passengers were not warned to check for a green light and a beep when touching their cards onto the reader.

No, that normallly comes with common sense.

Law

Common Sense

Not often seen together (imho)

[Derek]

http://coppersblog.blogspot.com/2008...ild-guess.html

[punky]

Wouldn't sending flowers and chocolates to the WPC come under bribing/influcing a witness?

[Dai]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Law

Common Sense

Not often seen together (imho)

If the law made sense there would be a lot less profit in it for lawyers.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by DaiNasty

If the law made sense there would be a lot less profit in it for lawyers.

Soooo true!!!

[Derek]

Originally Posted by punky

Wouldn't sending flowers and chocolates to the WPC come under bribing/influcing a witness?

The Police don't count in these matters. Police assaults/resist arrests are the first charges to get dropped in the hunt for a plea bargain.

Does seem to destroy the myth that alcohol and drugs are aggravating factors in sentencing though. Or maybe being coked up and drunk enough to have no recollection of the night before isn't classed as consuming enough to be a factor.

[Lain Andrew]

Black youths being left to die.
Politicians are leaving black youths to die" by cutting funding to community groups, an independent adviser to the Home Office has said.

Dr Campbell told the BBC that funds earmarked for community cohesion were not going to thr right organisations.

I agree with this, about time someone told the truth.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Lain Andrew

I agree with this, about time someone told the truth.

The only slight problem is that it isn't the truth.

Sometimes you can't fix a problem by just throwing money at it.

[nomadking]

There has been a lot of spending on non-white groups for decades, just look at all the <insert name of non-white group here> centres. The killings arise from groups getting together, so how is giving them lots more money to enable groups to get together on the basis of race going to help.

[Osem]

Well they're really getting tough now - this time it's 'community crimefighters'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7627746.stm

Apparently Brown said "tough policing, tough penalties and united communities" were needed to keep crime down. blah.. blah... blah...

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Osem

Well they're really getting tough now - this time it's 'community crimefighters'

Do they get to wear their underpants on the outside?

[Derek]

Thousands of "community crime fighters" are to be trained as part of a £5m package, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith has promised.

She told the Labour Party conference that 3,600 volunteers would act as a link between the public and police.

Hmmmm, volunteers who help the Police without being paid? Thats a good idea, in fact it's so good I'm sure there might already be something like it going on. Lets just have a look at a special constabulary website.

The Special Constabulary is a force of trained volunteers who work with and support their local police.

And I'd be willing to bet a decently trained and motivated special would be 100X more effective than a secret army of trained curtain twitchers, which as its a new Labour scheme will never work anyway, will be hugely overbudget and once a few of the more glaring flaws are pointed out will be quietly shelved never to be heard of again.

Still they could use the money instead to stop rioters being too cold.

[Osem]

You big cynic Derek

[punky]

Running off the link in Derek's post, this is brilliant: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-policing.html