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Originally Posted by sollp
Popper, i have briefly looked at the wireless solution in the US, but what i have seen is CATV amplifiers in certain areas with a wifi-max solution fitted to them. This would obviously work due to the CATV networks being on Telegraph pole, well most i have seen anyway.
Now we know in this country the great opposition to Mobile phone masts being erected, so im not sure, due to these 2 facts that it would be a viable solution in this country to have wifi-max,(im assuming this is what your on about). Or are we on about wimax from mobile phone masts already in situ.
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i take your point about opposition and indeed thats how/what i thought at first too.. but over time as i like to try and think differently were possible , the 'how might it be done' as apposed the 'it cant be done' so the end user gains or losses out.
i came to the same conclusions long ago, just as several of the private companys in the EU and the US are just now thinking.
that being, use the current existing private customer land and buildings on your edges to grow your new cheaper wireless docsis networks, by offering a product they cant get elswere and incentives and price points they would like for long term use of their space etc, hell free even, if it helps grow the thing.
also its possible to use state housing estates if you stick within certain rules and come to an understanding with the local council.
that still didnt really give you a garanteed good long term base to grow your new mobile wireless Docsis network on the back of your cable network as such.
at least that is , until commercial grade wireless mesh products took off, (now you know why i kept going on about community wireless MESH networks LOL).
this is the kind of thing im talking about
http://docsis-it.blogspot.com/search...eless%20DOCSIS
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it doesnt need a lot of thought to realise that once your outlay for the base MASH kit , you can migrate these wireless units to any end users roof install without any real problem, perhaps an extra hour is lost at most on todays wired cable pull and fitting/checking levels etc.
and if theres ever a need to move it down the road to your next user as your old one has canceled the BB contract or whatever, not a problem as its MESH so no reconfiguring required if theres any other units within range already.
any current cable customer within the edge of the current network can be signed up for this and have the kit installed very quickly as just another bit of kit.
you could even save masses of electricity costs if you install for free as an extra on top of a wired cable package incentive.
as these will mesh with their nearest maching units in range and you get your new wireless Docsis network grown for a very good return on investment, and OC the long range mobile wimax power output is FAR lower than any current mobile phone mast.
you could as you say, just use these phone masts, but it might work out far cheaper and far better transient coverage for everyone over the long term if the end user is considered and asked to contribute in all this.
after all, you as an end user dont mind powering all the current wired cable kit installed
inside your house if it gets you what you want do you, so the same can perhaps be said for that little
outside wimax Docsis box and wire pull to the roof perhaps.
i dont know if theres a certification for any planed wireless docsis 3 but the option is there some time soon i assume, after all 1gigE wireless is virtually generic today, wimax is just another version/conversion/upgrade of that.
one last point, if they did this and it turned out that their choice of edge location didnt become finantially viable over a set time, then they could just up and move the portable MESH units to another trial location and start again, once they have a viable place to grow just stuff in a fiber or two to that area and take the load off the long reach meshed part of the install.
over time thats got to be far better for the new pottential end users prospects, and good for longer term growth without paying out hand over fist for speculative cable runs, looking at it from the company POV for once
those other options are the old
http://www.winetworks.com/module.php?m_id=4&sm_id=62
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The WiN-Max™ WiN7100 Compact Base Station connects directly to the HFC infrastructure via a compatible DOCSIS coax interface, allowing the extension of services to areas where the DOCSIS/HFC infrastructure were not previously available.
The WiN7100 connects to the DOCSIS network in a completely standard way, exactly as a DOCSIS cable modem, while supporting DOCSIS 2.0 and PacketCable 1.x specifications. The WiN7100 uses the DOCSIS backhaul interface to deliver WiMAX services to served subscribers and complies with the 802.16e-2005 standard, supporting Fixed, Portable and Mobile network deployments. A unique feature of the WiN7000 is the support of all PacketCable and DOCSIS protocols and interfaces required for multimedia support over DOCSIS.
This unique capability allows smooth integration into the already deployed cable network, which is based on CableLabs specifications, without a need to redesign the network, applications and services.
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and this
http://www.wimax-industry.com/ar/16w.htm
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Vecima Networks Inc.
August 22, 2007
Vancouver, Canada -- Vecima Networks Inc. (TSX:VCM), leading Last Mile Solution(R) provider for broadband wireless and wired networks, today announces unit delivery and deployment milestones for its Broadband Wireless Internet Network (BWIN(TM)) product series. Based on proven Data over Cable Service Interface Specifications (DOCSIS(R)) technology for triple play services and first released in 1999 where it was available only in 3.5 GHz, Vecima's BWIN(TM) line of base stations and CPEs has expanded to offer complete system solutions in 700 MHz, 900 MHz, 1.9 GHz, 2.5 GHz, 3.5 GHz and 5.8 GHz. To date, BWIN(TM) deliveries exceed 50,000 units and have been deployed within 12 countries situated throughout Asia, Central America, Africa and North America.Targeting underserved rural and economically developing regions where broadband access had traditionally been unavailable, Vecima generated strong demand for its Canadian manufactured BWIN(TM) product family offering a cost efficient and rapidly deployable solution relative to laying cable infrastructure. Additional benefits fueling service provider's demand for BWIN(TM) included low-cost market entry, scalability and portability.
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"Although historically a wired broadband technology, DOCSIS(R) is a robust platform from which Vecima built its BWIN(TM) product family. In fact, as the next generation broadband wireless standard, WiMAX leverages the advantages of DOCSIS(R) by employing much of the MAC technology from the wired predecessor. Vecima's intimate knowledge of DOCSIS(R) gained through years of experience supplying the cable industry with DOCSIS(R) upconverters and QAMs continues to be of significant strategic importance to both our BWIN(TM) and VistaMAX solutions."
Vecima, a Principal Member of the WiMAX Forum, currently has shipped WiMAX compliant gear for trial deployment to 27 customers in 15 countries. Building upon the success of its BWIN(TM) systems, the company has continued to invest heavily into research and development and sales and marketing of its WiMAX line and is poised to deliver market leading WiMAX systems with mass market adoption."
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ohh the news services as if they were reading this thread
have answered my other points about EUE, ill post it later as this single post is growing far to long.
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