[Merged] 8Mb ADSL

Ive just been on the to tech yet again and they tell and I quote "He has done some work on it but some levels were high so he left it to see if thats any good"

I replied and i quote "Why did he leave it then? why didn't he finish the job and why wasn't I informed at what had gone on"

The reply and I quote "I don't know why he didn't finish the job,and they should have informed you"

Me "F*!*****!!!!!*********!!!" you get the idea

Them "I will make a note that it still drops out and we will get an engineer to look at it"

This is all becoming like a farse now any minute I expect someone to say "I didn't want to be in tech support Im pining for the feords" as a groups of mounties come out and sing "Im a lumberjack"

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ADSL2+ may add a tiny bit onto the downstream, however it should be noted that ADSL2+ speeds drop like a brick once you get a certain distance away, and by the time you can't receive a full 8Mbps on ADSL1 the speeds you'll see on ADSL2+ are practically identical.

Will find the graphs I had.

This is due to ADSL2+ operating at a higher power and to higher frequencies, however as the frequency goes up the attenuation goes up massively, so once you're a certain distance away the extra frequencies and the bandwidth that you could use them for are too attenuated to be usable so you're back pretty much at square one.

If the 3KM refers to distance from the exchange they are being a little optimistic The guideline for full 8Mbps currently is 2KM.

My whole venture has turned into a nightmare,if only ntl would be a bit more realistic about its cap/speed ratio and I would be more than happy to stay,but thats off this topic so i will continue to sulk

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

My whole venture has turned into a nightmare,if only ntl would be a bit more realistic about its cap/speed ratio and I would be more than happy to stay,but thats off this topic so i will continue to sulk

OK If you are using the UKOnline supplied router here's how to get your line stats:

1. Telnet into the router (default IP 192.168.0.1, or whatever you'e changed it to) from a command prompt:
telnet 192.168.0.1

2. User ID and password to log in are both "admin" by default

3. Issue the following command to show the stats:
cat /proc/avalanche/avsar_modem_stats

Please paste the output

cheers dude,the connection is stable at the moment but after 6 ish it will not be

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DS Margin = 1

This is unacceptably low, you really need this to be 6 or higher to keep a stable connection, at the moment someone farting near your phone line will take you offline.

Good show though for a 3.3km or so long line, they need to drop your speed down.

It gets worse at 6 due to more RF interference, more people using their ADSL, switching lights on, etc.

Nice one dude least I have somethign to tell them about now

Please soneone rep this guy as I need to spread some love around first

[WaryWolf]

http://www.internode.on.net/adsl2/adsl2graph.htm

that's a graph of adsl2+ speeds and how they drop as distance from exchange increases. adsl2 and adsl2 are also on there.

some australian isp's have already started offering 24mbit adsl2+ products, with some hefty download limits too. the only problem is they're only available to about 10 exchanges across the country

finally getting somewhere,Im now on about 5 meg and my ds margin is 12,yesterday I was on 6 meg and ds margin in the day was approx 8 but after 6 it was 3 then by 9 it was 1 and dropping again,I hope todays results are better or I will end up on 2 meg,but if this happens I will only be paying £19.99.
If you want to contact ukonline tech support call them between the hours of midnight and 7 am

[Wakar]

im just thinking about getting the ukonline 8mb.. i can get it!! i cud off in a month so to speak

[Gareth]

er...what? Sorry, mate, I've read and re-read that last part of your post, but it's still not making any sense to me.