Euthanasia?

Yes let us carm it, it's late, every one is going to be tired

I agree, I will repost what was a point i was trying to make earlyer

Repost....

Really though all of us can say this and that but its all debate until you are in that one moment and you cant say anything. When the moment comes all your moral objections or convictions that we have been discussing are out of the window in that one moment and then it is a test of your personaility.

Do you love that enough to let them go? Do you love them so much you cant let them go? Can you kill someone? Could you live with yourself if you did?

All those questions can only be answered once our emotions are actually being tested in the real event, one we all hope we are not in . As the person or as the person being asked.

I fail to see how anyone can speak with such conviction? If you know someone who has been in pain and died it is still not the same as being asked to kill them.

I reakon we should debate the pros and cons of allowing medical assistance in depth in extreame cases. Not a debate on the legal meaning of Euthanasia.

[Julian]

As someone who watched his mother in law go from a fun loving 9 1/2 stones person to a crippled woman weighing just 3 1/2 stones, begging for release from her pain I find myself very close to the issues here.

She tried to end her life with a cocktail of morphine and diazapan but woke again in the morning only to ask "Why did that not work?"

She died naturally in her sleep 2 weeks later.

My father in law,my wife and her sister were pleaded with to help her end it all.

Even her doctor said if anything was "to happen" he would make sure there was no post mortem.

Fortunately she lived long enough to see her only grandchild born.

My heart goes out to the family here. It is a shame that a lot of the argument and conjecture here is made without full knowledge of the facts.

Sorry Damien... I don't find your sig. funny.... esp. when you join a thread such as this m8.

Originally Posted by Julian

Sorry Damien... I don't find your sig. funny.... esp. when you join a thread such as this m8.

Sorry, I dont actually think that it is that bad, also although it has death in it, it really isnt related to the topic in hand

But i dont want to casue offence so i have changed it

OK, let's get back on topic please!!!

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Jerrek

You yourself said the person is a vegetable. He won't know. And, it won't be slowly. Going without water is lethal. He most certainly will not starve to death.

What if someone is severely paralysed, after a stroke for instance, they could be concious, able to feel pain, but unable to move or talk.
What if all through their lives they've expressed their wishes to be killed in that situation.
Would you just let them die from dehydration?

[Julian]

Are we not just a stage away from this by having DNR ( Do Not Resuscitate ) more recently changed to DNAR ( Do Not Attempt Resuscitation ) facility? - Something I am totally in favour of.

[carlingman]

Originally Posted by Julian

Are we not just a stage away from this by having DNR ( Do Not Resuscitate ) more recently changed to DNAR ( Do Not Attempt Resuscitation ) facility? - Something I am totally in favour of.

We are already in certain circumstances at this stage.

I will repost something close to me that was the hardest decision i ever have had to make below -

There is one of hell of a difference between Euthanasia and a Do Not Resuscitate Order.

Firstly the DNR is only given as an option in specific circumstances.

In my own personal experience was offered to myself for my Father that if they were to perform CPR and heart massage in attempt to restore life his ribcage would have collapsed and would have been a high risk on puncturing his lungs depriving oxygen to the brain.

Fortunately or unfortunately this never came into play as he died peacefully in his sleep with me at the bedside.

Having watched and nursed my father turn from a 65 year old fit man and then lapse into a 69 year old confined to one room for 3 years and then turn into in a 69 year old skeleton of his former self and fight for every breath Euthanasia was never an option.

COAD (Chronic Obstructive Airways Disease) was the eventual cause and would never wish this to be seen or endured by anyone and unbelievable to think it was first diagnosed by a scan after my Father coughed that hard that during the coughing fit he broke three ribs.

From a post found I orginally made here

Graham at the time did make a well balanced reply to my original posting and i will levae it in his hands if he wants to reply here.

Originally Posted by carlingman

Graham at the time did make a well balanced reply to my original posting and i will levae it in his hands if he wants to reply here.

Graham said all he wanted to say in the previous discussion and doesn't feel inclined to do it all again, nor contribute to this thread...!