Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797] - Page 889

bluecar1 · 05-08-2008, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Wildie

but they all on a summer break just like the kids are oh could they be one of the same

no the school kids have more morals and respect for others

05-08-2008, 19:33

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Originally Posted by gnilddif

Maybe they were getting worried that increasing numbers of BT customers were getting Webwise-wise

Webwise-wise? Three "Ws" - WWW...

I like that Webwise has two "Ws".

If implemented, Webwise certainly takes something away from the internet as we know it.

warescouse · 05-08-2008, 20:45

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Originally Posted by Rob M

.....and on that note.....

I'm going to remind everybody that dragging problems encountered in one online forum into another online forum is generaly considered extremely bad Phorm.

If you have a problem with any other site then please take it up with the site's owners, don't bring those problems here.

Thank you.

Totally agree with your comment although I would like to try and link a tiny bit of relevance to the previous discussion.

Once a system is put in place that removes peoples privacy, another step is to control what people see and do. The big brother effect of knowing all about another persons intimate life gives that big brother person, or the organisation, knowledge and power. The abuse of this power can and very often does lead to police state like control on peoples lives within that particular society.

Censorship prevails and is used willingly to protect the already corrupt.

Maybe some phormafied ISP's are showing the first signs of this particular mindset. The censorship of what people can say or do (legally) is not conducive to a free society. Perhaps the abuse of power has already begun ?

phormwatch · 05-08-2008, 21:45

I suggest more people sign up to the BT thread right now, as I have a hunch they might go nuclear and start banning more people and stop new accounts being created.

It would be handy to have a couple of backup accounts ready.

bluecar1 · 05-08-2008, 21:53

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Originally Posted by phormwatch

I suggest more people sign up to the BT thread right now, as I have a hunch they might go nuclear and start banning more people and stop new accounts being created.

It would be handy to have a couple of backup accounts ready.

see if i get banned for my last post?

anyway back to topic

BT network seem strange at the moment, routes which have not changed for several weeks now seem on the move as though load balancing has been introduced, it used to be a single route, now you get one of three routes not sure if on a round robin basis or if route you get is based on traffic levels,

not sure if it is relevant but i will keep an eye on it

http, https and ping (ICMP) traffic all still follow same route so does not look like phorm is in yet

peter

Tezcatlipoca · 05-08-2008, 22:48

Would this be of any relevance to the Phorm issue?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/19...bandwidth.html

phormwatch · 05-08-2008, 23:03

I've just discovered another handy little forum:

http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/postlist...&Board=general

Dephormation · 05-08-2008, 23:16

Me too.

BT Business Support Forums : Webhost

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Originally Posted by Matt D

Would this be of any relevance to the Phorm issue?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/19...bandwidth.html

Its hard to know at present.

If Phorm ever does launch, and uses the madcap technology described in Richard Claytons analysis, there is so much tampering & redirection going on I'm sure it won't be hard to detect with a rubber chicken, never mind a clever analysis package

You've got so many eyes looking at Phorm at the moment, even if they change the implementation model, it will get torn to shreds the moment its switched on

Once bitten, twice shy.

Pete.

phormwatch · 05-08-2008, 23:32

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Originally Posted by Dephormation

Me too.

BT Business Support Forums : Webhost

Pete.

Ooohh.. very nice work, Pete!

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Bookmarked them on the nodpi wiki:

http://nodpi.wikispaces.com/Discussion

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You have a reply already, Pete - from an alleged BT employee, no less.

Dephormation · 05-08-2008, 23:35

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Originally Posted by phormwatch

You have a reply already, Pete - from an alleged BT employee, noless.

Update, actually a very astute reply!

phormwatch · 05-08-2008, 23:41

It's a great reply.

Dephormation · 05-08-2008, 23:45

Looks like the same forum has already had some 'feedback' from other customers.

madslug · 06-08-2008, 00:35

Hadn't found this forum before
http://www.the-scream.co.uk/forums/s...earchid=254377
for links to the phorm threads.
Interesting comment about Hugo Drayton is the thread at
http://www.the-scream.co.uk/forums/s...ighlight=phorm

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I'm surprised that no-one's yet linked the Hugo Drayton that's Phorm's CEO - http://www.phorm.com/about/exec_drayton.php - with the Hugo Drayton that's been in premium rate for years: see, for instance:- http://www.netplaytv.plc.uk/netplayt...Prospectus.pdf - thus unifying two of this forum's main concerns.

bluecar1 · 06-08-2008, 00:50

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Originally Posted by Dephormation

Looks like the same forum has already had some 'feedback' from other customers.

just added my two penneth there, see if steph bans me, only quoted facts about weblies and corrected a few statements by the mods over there, ooops is that a cat i see escaping from a bag, oh dear!!!!

peter

OldBear · 06-08-2008, 00:52

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Originally Posted by Dephormation

Me too.

BT Business Support Forums : Webhost

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Pete.

Be aware, chaps; as with so many things BT-wise, this site appears to be hosted in the good ol' US of A.

http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip...208.74.204.128

http://www.networksolutions.com/whoi...in=lithium.com

OB