Football Season 2012/2013 - Page 84

colin25 · 22-09-2012, 16:29

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Originally Posted by Julian

woooohooooo!

lol..i was waiting for it

Russ · 22-09-2012, 16:43

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Originally Posted by colin25

Funds earned through results?

Is that how Man Utd did it through the years?

I thought it was titles and trophies earned through results.

Yes. That's exactly how it works.

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So if Man Utd do worse, does that mean you haven't earned your money?

Broadly speaking, a team gets its money from winning things which can then be invested in the team. Unless the name of the team rhymes with Garsemal.

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Utd's debt wasn't serviceable. Its taken a few 'miracles' to get a grip of things but thats alongside the fact that Utd are a massive cash cow.

Thanks.....you've just backed up my point. The debt IS serviceable otherwise United would have gone under by now. The reason they're still going is because, as you say, United's brand is a cash cow.

thenry · 22-09-2012, 16:48

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Originally Posted by colin25

it is always the supporters of clubs without sugar daddies who complain.

The only way you can ever have a truely even playing field, is if you have every team only allowed to spend the same set amount of money

I suspect that if that happens, the premiership will become dull

Wrong on both counts.

Firstly I'm not complaining because we haven't a sugar daddy, Arsenal have 2. We could very easily get Usmanov on the board and have Gazprom bank roll us in sponsorship. I'm not going to now say thats wrong, I don't care about clubs finding ways like sponsorship via ownership connections. Football is heading towards commercial madness and what UEFA have put in place in FFP will only push clubs further that way as it is doing now so to me that fight is pointless but thats exactly it. Stop being lazy and find ways to generate cash. What does need to be implemented is clubs having the ability to survive the next 5-10years, thats tricky. Billionaire owners will not be able to bank roll the club constantly through their own connections. Clubs will have to find other ways like PR, perks, whatever to balance it out. With that then comes responsibility that one has to take running a business. Fans also come in here to make sure the long term is safe, supporter trusts need to be given some form of support from the official. At the moment or what was is just spend silly amounts here there and everywhere with the owners cash, thats irresponsible.

Sponsorships come in on a 5 year contract, that will decrease in the near future just like player contracts of 5 years are slowly dying out. Commercial madness is whats coming which is fine as thats growth overall not growth for a select few even if the top teams gain more monies.. somethings better than nothing.

Your second point of having the same amounts of cash to spend is pointless and indeed dull. What I've posted above is whats to come not this sort of gag.

Julian · 22-09-2012, 16:50

penalty

RICKYYYYYYYY

Masterclass second half.

thenry · 22-09-2012, 16:54

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Originally Posted by Russ

Broadly speaking, a team gets its money from winning things which can then be invested in the team. Unless the name of the team rhymes with Garsemal.

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Originally Posted by Russ

Thanks.....you've just backed up my point. The debt IS serviceable otherwise United would have gone under by now. The reason they're still going is because, as you say, United's brand is a cash cow.

thats not to say a few miracles have had to come about to get a proper grip on things.

Russ · 22-09-2012, 17:00

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thats not to say a few miracles have had to come about to get a proper grip on things.

'Miracles' as you call them happen in any business of that size. I've never been in favour of the Glaziers or how they run the club but if the books have been balanced correctly then no laws have been broken.

thenry · 22-09-2012, 17:07

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'Miracles' as you call them happen in any business of that size. I've never been in favour of the Glaziers or how they run the club but if the books have been balanced correctly then no laws have been broken.

Chevrolet? bit of sly dealing?

Dave42 · 22-09-2012, 17:08

another very poor display from sunderland only one good thing again another goal from super Fletch 4 in 3 games

Russ · 22-09-2012, 17:11

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Originally Posted by thenry

Chevrolet? bit of sly dealing?

If by 'sly dealing' you mean 'legitimate sponsorship' then yes, that's exactly what it is.

thenry · 22-09-2012, 17:14

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If by 'sly dealing' you mean 'legitimate sponsorship' then yes, that's exactly what it is.

The guy who signed it off got sacked Russ

Russ · 22-09-2012, 17:52

....and your point is?

thenry · 22-09-2012, 18:27

self-explanatory is it not

denphone · 22-09-2012, 19:44

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Originally Posted by Julian

woooohooooo!

Happy days are here again for you Julian.

Julian · 22-09-2012, 20:43

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Happy days are here again for you Julian.

It's early doors Den but if Ramirez plays like that week in, week out we certainly won't be staring down the relegation barrel.

thenry · 22-09-2012, 23:00

Saints sign Artur Boruc on a free transfer until the end of the season. Once an impressive keeper for Celtic.