[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Margaret Hilda Thatcher, Baroness Thatcher, LG, OM, PC, FRS was a British stateswoman and politician who was the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom from 1979 to 1990 and the Leader of the Conservative Party from 1975 to 1990.

you could respect her achievements a little better than one word

Spoken like a true Tory. Wouldn't expect anything else. Did you know there are more Pandas in Scotland than Tory MPs?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Big Brian

Spoken like a true Tory. Wouldn't expect anything else. Did you know there are more Pandas in Scotland than Tory MPs?

ex Tory voter actually

Originally Posted by Big Brian

Because we have a Tory Government and we all know their motto - If it moves, Pravatise it.

And as soon as it is nationalised the daily loss will increase dramatically .Governments cannot run businesses effectively and competitively that has been proven many times

[Big Brian]

EU referendum: poll shows young voters could hold key in June vote




Leave campaign four points ahead in survey that shows just half of 18-34s are certain to cast their vote on 23 June

The decision over whether the UK remains inside the European Union could depend on whether young people shake off their apathy and vote in sufficient numbers on 23 June, a revealing opinion poll conducted for the Observer shows.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...s-brexit-leave

As you can see a large majority of people aged over 55 would vote to leave the EU. Does this not stick out like a sore thumb to those who want to remain that those of us who voted against in 1975 were right to do so? Just because we are getting older doesn't mean we're senile and don't know what we're doing. Remember we were young then and had the sense to see what was ahead. I just love saying to those who voted to remain in 1975 "I told you so." We could see where things would lead and we were right. Brussels Ruling Europe Politically and Germany ruling Financially were just two of the reasons we sited for leaving then and they have practically came to pass.

Time to wake up and smell the coffee those who think we should remain. And to all of those undecided, listen to your elders. It's no mistake that a vast majority of over 55s are against remaining in the EU.

Originally Posted by Big Brian

Spoken like a true Tory. Wouldn't expect anything else. Did you know there are more Pandas in Scotland than Tory MPs?

The same is true for Labour MPs...

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by martyh

And as soon as it is nationalised the daily loss will increase dramatically .Governments cannot run businesses effectively and competitively that has been proven many times

Nationalisation is not the issue. It's the right to decide whether to Nationalise that is the issue and you won't get that whilst you are a member of the EU.

Originally Posted by Big Brian

EU referendum: poll shows young voters could hold key in June vote




Leave campaign four points ahead in survey that shows just half of 18-34s are certain to cast their vote on 23 June

The decision over whether the UK remains inside the European Union could depend on whether young people shake off their apathy and vote in sufficient numbers on 23 June, a revealing opinion poll conducted for the Observer shows.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...s-brexit-leave

As you can see a large majority of people aged over 55 would vote to leave the EU. Does this not stick out like a sore thumb to those who want to remain that those of us who voted against in 1975 were right to do so? Just because we are getting older doesn't mean we're senile and don't know what we're doing. Remember we were young then and had the sense to see what was ahead. I just love saying to those who voted to remain in 1975 "I told you so." We could see where things would lead and we were right. Brussels Ruling Europe Politically and Germany ruling Financially were just two of the reasons we sited for leaving then and they have practically came to pass.

Time to wake up and smell the coffee those who think we should remain. And to all of those undecided, listen to your elders. It's no mistake that a vast majority of over 55s are against remaining in the EU.

And yet a majority of those aged 55+ voted Tory in the 2015 UK General Election - should people listen to their elders on that matter?

https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchp...aspx?view=wide

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

And yet a majority of those aged 55+ voted Tory in the 2015 UK General Election - should people listen to their elders on that matter?

Elders but not betters.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Big Brian

EU referendum: poll shows young voters could hold key in June vote




Leave campaign four points ahead in survey that shows just half of 18-34s are certain to cast their vote on 23 June

The decision over whether the UK remains inside the European Union could depend on whether young people shake off their apathy and vote in sufficient numbers on 23 June, a revealing opinion poll conducted for the Observer shows.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...s-brexit-leave

As you can see a large majority of people aged over 55 would vote to leave the EU. Does this not stick out like a sore thumb to those who want to remain that those of us who voted against in 1975 were right to do so? Just because we are getting older doesn't mean we're senile and don't know what we're doing. Remember we were young then and had the sense to see what was ahead. I just love saying to those who voted to remain in 1975 "I told you so." We could see where things would lead and we were right. Brussels Ruling Europe Politically and Germany ruling Financially were just two of the reasons we sited for leaving then and they have practically came to pass.

Time to wake up and smell the coffee those who think we should remain. And to all of those undecided, listen to your elders. It's no mistake that a vast majority of over 55s are against remaining in the EU.

the EEC of the 70s was not the beast it is today , i will vote to leave because in its current form the EU is an unworkable bureaucratic nightmare ,once it is dead and buried something good may arise from the ashes .

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Elders but not betters.

55 their just kids at that age

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

the EEC of the 70s was not the beast it is today , i will vote to leave because in its current form the EU is an unworkable bureaucratic nightmare ,once it is dead and buried something good may arise from the ashes

BFG alliance. The ragtag can go to hell in their handcart.

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by Hugh

And yet a majority of those aged 55+ voted Tory in the 2015 UK General Election - should people listen to their elders on that matter?

https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchp...aspx?view=wide

Considering the alternative, there was very little choice.

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Elders but not betters.

I did not claim to be better I claim to be correct.

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the EEC of the 70s was not the beast it is today , i will vote to leave because in its current form the EU is an unworkable bureaucratic nightmare ,once it is dead and buried something good may arise from the ashes .

Correct but the point is we could see what it would lead to - What we are getting now.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Big Brian

Considering the alternative, there was very little choice.

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I did not claim to be better I claim to be correct.

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the EEC of the 70s was not the beast it is today , i will vote to leave because in its current form the EU is an unworkable bureaucratic nightmare ,once it is dead and buried something good may arise from the ashes .

Correct but the point is we could see what it would lead to - What we are getting now.

the bill

Originally Posted by Big Brian

Considering the alternative, there was very little choice.

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I did not claim to be better I claim to be correct.

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Correct but the point is we could see what it would lead to - What we are getting now.

That's impressive - did you also forecast the creation of the Internet, the fall of the Berlin Wall, and other major political events?

[Big Brian]

Originally Posted by Hugh

That's impressive - did you also forecast the creation of the Internet, the fall of the Berlin Wall, and other major political events?

Strangely enough we were messing about with computers in about 1978 and said, one day we'll be able to contact each other and see each other on these things. That also came to pass.

[techguyone]

Originally Posted by Big Brian

All the more reason why we should leave the EU I'd have thought. And yes, I blame the Tories for a lot of what's happening in our own country. One word. Thatcher!

Shame, you lost a lot of credibility bringing up that old chestnut, the old girls dead, she was ousted from politics in 1990 that was 26 years ago! 26... move on jeez.

Don't bother trying to label me this or that, you'll most likely get it wrong.