Madeleine McCann - Page 81

Mr_love_monkey · 12-09-2007, 11:33

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Originally Posted by Gavin

While I think that your post is funny, Seizing the diary could be very useful. It could yield pieces of information that discredit things Mrs McCann said under whatever the Portugese-version of caution is (Arguida I presume), with regard to times, what was said, etc.

I'm suprised they made it public before securing the diary, as 'accidents' might happen.

Hmm... I just cant see someone recording something 'important' in their diary - surely only the events of that night are really in question, and I can't see why anyone with a brain cell would have recorded an 'alternative' version in their diary - I would have thought it would make more sense to record the version that they are telling everyone since it would give them something to refer back to.

As I say, short of a signed confession in the diary, or the girl being beaten to death with it, I can't see what use it could be

punky · 12-09-2007, 11:40

Lying to a diary would defeat the purpose of its existence in the first place. Its supposed to be a physical extension of the psyche.

And anyway, if the accusations are true, then Mrs McCann would be absolutely boiling over inside with all kinds of emotions, and would want to vent and let the truth out in some form, if only to keep the sanity.

I'm more intrigued to how they are directed to the diary. How did they know of it?

Mr_love_monkey · 12-09-2007, 11:52

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Originally Posted by Gavin

Lying to a diary would defeat the purpose of its existence in the first place. Its supposed to be a physical extension of the psyche.

yeah, but writing down a confession (of sorts) defeats the purpose of lying about it - it's shooting yourself in the foot much the same way as 'Well Mr Bond, since you are going to die, I will tell you where my secret self destruct button is'

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Originally Posted by Gavin

And anyway, if the accusations are true, then Mrs McCann would be absolutely boiling over inside with all kinds of emotions, and would want to vent and let the truth out in some form, if only to keep the sanity.

What's wrong with drinking until you fall over? - works for me

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Originally Posted by Gavin

I'm more intrigued to how they are directed to the diary. How did they know of it?

yeah, seems a bit direct for a guess

Gareth · 12-09-2007, 11:55

Maybe the diary makes mention of the fact that Gerry is profoundly in love with Pandora

**Damien** · 12-09-2007, 12:20

If Kate McCann has the diary, and she wrote something that would help the case against her, wouldnt she change it, lose it, damage it?

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*Buy a new one and re-write it?

Saaf_laandon_mo · 12-09-2007, 12:27

What if she turns around and says "Err what diary?"

12-09-2007, 12:52

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

I read that the decsion whether to allow money from MAddies fund to be used in any defence costs will be reached today. Although two of the directors of the fund cannot vote on this issue as they are direct family members, the other 4 are close friends of the McGanns. Their decision should be interesting.

It has also been reported that there have been calls from some donators to refund their money if it is going to be used in this manner.

I for one do not think the money should be used by them for paying lawyers in a case where they are being accused of murder, manslaughter, accidental death etc etc Maddie.

A decision has been made not to use any of the fund money to pay for their defence costs.

http://dm.anm.co.uk/pages/live/artic...e_id=1811&ct=5

...but as one of the aims of the fund is to bring the perpetrators to justice, will it be used against them?

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**Damien** · 12-09-2007, 13:01

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...167113,00.html

Good Article

**Hugh** · 12-09-2007, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Damien

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...167113,00.html

Good Article

I heard this journalist on the radio at lunchtime, and I have to agree with his final paragraph -
"How will this story end? That's what makes it so grimly compelling: none of us knows. Until we do, basic justice demands that we presume the McCanns are wholly innocent. Common decency demands the same. For if they are eventually found guilty, there will be plenty of time for condemnation. But if they are innocent, to presume otherwise is to commit a second crime against people who have already suffered enough."

Osem · 12-09-2007, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Damien

If Kate McCann has the diary, and she wrote something that would help the case against her, wouldnt she change it, lose it, damage it?

---------- Post added at 12:20 ---------- Previous post was at 12:17 ----------

*Buy a new one and re-write it?

Well if she does suddenly lose/alter the diary it'll look mighty suspicious and the prosecution will probably draw the same conclusion.......

12-09-2007, 13:43

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Originally Posted by Pia

Do you have a link to that info?

I am sure the story about the church being searched & the road works being dug up again were on the Daily Mail website, but they appear to have been deleted.

It has just been mentioned on BBC 1 o'clock news, that the church may be searched today.

I could only find this on the Daily Star website:-

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view...r-Maddie-body/

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Osem · 12-09-2007, 13:48

I think the papers are making a lot of this up as they go along. I happened across a copy of the Daily Mail from Saturday and it had a whole page devoted to questions the Portuguese police 'might' be asking the McCanns.

**Chris** · 12-09-2007, 13:51

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Originally Posted by Osem

I think the papers are making a lot of this up as they go along. I happened across a copy of the Daily Mail from Saturday and it had a whole page devoted to questions the Portuguese police 'might' be asking the McCanns.

Quoted for truth. This Press hysteria is achieving nothing, except perhaps for selling a few more papers. It certainly isn't significantly adding to anybody's understanding of the case.

Mr_love_monkey · 12-09-2007, 13:58

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

"How will this story end?

To quote from Se7en :

"This isn't going to have a happy ending"

I think it's now at the point where very few people think that she is alive so either we have a) parents that are guilty, and have covered it up - in which case it just shows how long people can sink, and short of their heads opening up and the devil himself popping out, I don't think people will be able to accept the outcome, or reasoning behind it or b) we have parents that are innocent, and someone else has got away with it, which again, isn't a great thought.

**Damien** · 12-09-2007, 14:22

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Originally Posted by Osem

I think the papers are making a lot of this up as they go along. I happened across a copy of the Daily Mail from Saturday and it had a whole page devoted to questions the Portuguese police 'might' be asking the McCanns.

Well, The Daily Mail makes up most of it's stuff as it goes along depending on how angry they feel like making people.

But your right, The Mirror today said that the police do not think they have enough evidence to secure a conviction but other media outlets are suggesting that they do.

Every paper wants to appear to have just slightly more information than the others and if it sells 100,000 more papers they will take any source they got (especially the Mirror which isnt too keen on checking sources on their info)