The "Lost" (TV) thread - SEASON TWO (SPOILERS) - Page 8

Stuart · 04-10-2006, 09:08

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Originally Posted by Matt D

My thoughts exactly re downloading TV.

I pay my TV licence, & I pay my Sky subscription.

So I see no moral problem with downloading TV episodes which I would be able to watch on my fee-paid TV service. And if the series is not yet broadcast in the UK, then screw the network - if I didn't have to wait months & months I wouldn't download the US broadcasts.

Definitely not the same IMO as downloading an album or movie rather than buying a CD or cinema ticket / DVD.

As Chris says, the laws of copyright disagree with you..

Also, your arguement doesn't apply to any TV series not broadcast over here (say, Lost was dropped due to low viewing figures).

SMHarman · 04-10-2006, 18:45

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

As Chris says, the laws of copyright disagree with you..

Also, your arguement doesn't apply to any TV series not broadcast over here (say, Lost was dropped due to low viewing figures).

Yes they do, but the claim i illegally downloaded it, i now owe them compensation for loss of revenue because I downloaded this. What exactly is the loss of revenue here? They still sold it to my broadcaster who I pay my monthly subscription to. If i download Britneys latest album and don't buy it the shop is out $10 and the artist say $1. If I download 'The Guardian' and don't go to see it in a theatre or buy the DVD people are out cash, but as long as my DD to NTL or whoever is taken then they have all the revenue they were going to get for the sale of that show. What is the financial loss and thus restitution payable for that loss in the event of downloading TV that in time you would be subscribed to?

lauzjp · 05-10-2006, 05:19

so where's the season 3 thread / gossip then?!

Russ · 05-10-2006, 08:01

The show needs to start first

**Hugh** · 05-10-2006, 08:04

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Originally Posted by lauzjp

so where's the season 3 thread / gossip then?!

ahem

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

Some spoilers for season three - read at your own peril

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30265

Stuart · 05-10-2006, 09:07

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Originally Posted by lauzjp

so where's the season 3 thread / gossip then?!

Nothing stopping you starting one..

lauzjp · 05-10-2006, 09:14

bah, i know nothing really - and it is very confusing as apparently there were 'foilers' put out by the lost team... oh well. this is all I have managed to find on season 3 so far!? http://lost.rapnix.com/category/season-3/

**Hugh** · 05-10-2006, 09:46

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

Nothing stopping you starting one..

I've "made it so", Captain.

Tezcatlipoca · 05-10-2006, 23:55

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Originally Posted by SMHarman

Yes they do, but the claim i illegally downloaded it, i now owe them compensation for loss of revenue because I downloaded this. What exactly is the loss of revenue here? They still sold it to my broadcaster who I pay my monthly subscription to. If i download Britneys latest album and don't buy it the shop is out $10 and the artist say $1. If I download 'The Guardian' and don't go to see it in a theatre or buy the DVD people are out cash, but as long as my DD to NTL or whoever is taken then they have all the revenue they were going to get for the sale of that show. What is the financial loss and thus restitution payable for that loss in the event of downloading TV that in time you would be subscribed to?

Totally agree with you.

I guess it's the uploading aspect of using P2P - you may be downloading something which you feel you've already paid for by paying ntl etc., but you're also uploading it at the same time, to many other people, who most likely haven't paid ntl or Sky etc.

Except...

You can cap your upload, and also never fully seed when the download is complete, & just leech away. Still some uploading though, but not as much.

And of course P2P is not the only method for obtaining TV eps online. Plenty of newsgroups out there, which you can download TV from at high speeds without having to ever share it with other people.

SMHarman · 06-10-2006, 20:24

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Originally Posted by Matt D

Plenty of newsgroups out there, which you can download TV from at high speeds without having to ever share it with other people.

Which is how i do it.

lauzjp · 06-10-2006, 21:03

i can't get in to newsgroups

SMHarman · 06-10-2006, 23:31

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Originally Posted by lauzjp

i can't get in to newsgroups

You subscribe to easy news or something similar, it has a web based interface where you search for the information you are looking for most ISPs newsgroups do not carry groups that bandwidth intensive. Was that euphamistic enough?

**Chris** · 06-10-2006, 23:37

No need to be euphemistic about it. Most ISPs do not carry the 'binary' newsgroups where people post TV shows, films, CDs etc because ISP newsgroup access is almost always a free add-on. They can't afford the kind of bandwidth involved.