Sacked by Ntl.

[Frank]

I dont believe the moderators on .com had anything to do with releasing details, it was of course ashg wasnt it. He has access to every single record on their forum now, including those from before Frank sold the site to ntl, which if I recall correctly was not part of the deal and Mr Ryan stated this when he posted on .com once.

[Nor]

Originally Posted by zoombini

Hmm, if I was accused of possibly being responsible for someone being sacked then I think I'd be a bit pi$$ed off and swear a bit too.

Why dont y'all give over changing the topic of the thread & discussing Neils annoyance at being one of the accused of the deed & keep it about the sacking problem. Being a mod does not mean that you have to give up all rights to being an ordinary person.

How many times can I say it. I apologise for making the mistake when I thought the moderators would be needed to obtain the IP of the person posting on the nthellworld.com forum. All it required though was for me to be corrected, not abused and sworn at.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by zoombini

Hmm, if I was accused of possibly being responsible for someone being sacked then I think I'd be a bit pi$$ed off and swear a bit too.

Why dont y'all give over changing the topic of the thread & discussing Neils annoyance at being one of the accused of the deed & keep it about the sacking problem. Being a mod does not mean that you have to give up all rights to being an ordinary person.

That's correct Zoombini, thank you.

However, to anyone who was offended by my remarks (Including Nor), I am sorry.

Please understand that in a situation like this, mud can stick, & making bold sweeping posts like that could easily ruin the trust I have built with NTHW.com over the last 3 years.

I can understand someone jumping to conclusions, & saying "Well Neil/Ben/Mick have the ability to check info-has anyone asked them if they know anything about it?", but no one asked me/us anything, all that happened was that Nor (may have been someone else also-so I'm not blaming Nor solely) said "I think it must have been the mods" & that is neither true nor fair.

Sorry for dragging this off topic, all yours.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Neil

Sorry for dragging this off topic, all yours.

Why thank you Neil! You didn't want me moderating you there now did you??

The misunderstanding has been cleared up, people have apologised, so please can we have this back on topic, fankyoo

[Frank]

Originally Posted by Russ D

Why thank you Neil! You didn't want me moderating you there now did you??

I have already moderated his swearing

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

as much as I like Neil, I did think his response was a bit over the top. In your suggestion you did say "I think" which is as much as saying "in my opinion" and in fairness it'd be a fair assumption/opinion that this information could have been obtained via the moderators.

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There was no 'think' involved in the accusation etc - to quote nor - 'The moderators were then clearly involved in tracing this person and finding out where they lived.'....post #43 I think...



edit sorry for dragging off topic again - only just read the posts asking to get back on topic...

[Nor]

Nice to drag it back up once it was sorted OB. I corrected what I said there in a further post if you check back. I can only keep apologising for making the mistake for so long, how many more times do you want me to apologise ?

[Steve H]

Originally Posted by Nor

Nice to drag it back up once it was sorted OB. I corrected what I said there in a further post if you check back. I can only keep apologising for making the mistake for so long, how many more times do you want me to apologise ?

You dont, its sorted now. Now, Can we get back on topic?

[cjll3]

Originally Posted by orangebird

There was no 'think' involved in the accusation etc - to quote nor - 'The moderators were then clearly involved in tracing this person and finding out where they lived.'....post #43 I think...



edit sorry for dragging off topic again - only just read the posts asking to get back on topic...

If what Neil says is true, then it's likely Ash G's take over of the server was prompted by ntlrebel's post, not Frank posting his grivence letter.

[Graham F]

Originally Posted by cjll3

If what Neil says is true, then it's likely Ash G's take over of the server was prompted by ntlrebel's post, not Frank posting his grivence letter.

What utter bollox, if ntl wanted to get information off a site which is hosted on one of their servers they could quite easily do so and have done so as it seems without having ot go to a mod on the site!!

If ntlrebels post is so bad why the **** is it still there to read? Think back to when gooner4life posted on .com abt Broadband Plus that thread the next morning got pulled, why? becasue it was info he/she shouldn't of posted. This has not happened in this case has it?

What happened to ntlrebel and Frank are 2 seperate things and you shouldn't confuse them.

[cjll3]

Originally Posted by Scooby

What utter bollox, if ntl wanted to get information off a site which is hosted on one of their servers they could quite easily do so and have done so as it seems without having ot go to a mod on the site!!

If ntlrebels post is so bad why the **** is it still there to read? Think back to when gooner4life posted on .com abt Broadband Plus that thread the next morning got pulled, why? becasue it was info he/she shouldn't of posted. This has not happened in this case has it?

What happened to ntlrebel and Frank are 2 seperate things and you shouldn't confuse them.

You should ask ntl why they are still there to read.

And exactly how do you think ntl would get access to the information?

You think they are dumb enough to let anyone who works there have access to the server?

In the first instance they'd ask the mod team, failing that, they'd have to get clearance from senior management to get control of the machine.

What happened this week? Co-incidence I think not

[SMHarman]

[QUOTE=Scooby]<snip>

If ntlrebels post is so bad why the **** is it still there to read? Think back to when gooner4life posted on .com abt Broadband Plus that thread the next morning got pulled, why? becasue it was info he/she shouldn't of posted. This has not happened in this case has it?

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Can you do me a favour and post a link to it?

[Paul K]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

Its Three Letter Abbreviation wouldn't be Personal Video Recorder would it?!

Originally Posted by MARKW

Nope

This secret product, soon to be launched isn't a working Interactive service is it :p
I know, I know

[Moox]

Originally Posted by Paul

This secret product, soon to be launched isn't a working Interactive service is it :p
I know, I know

That's not a secret. It's just "coming soon"

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

External legal rep is often very difficult to take.

One tip we were given is to take an employment specialist - they are not a lawyer, but know the law back to front. Do you have any friends / partner who know anyone in HR that could take such a role.

I know that is true about problems taking an external legal adviser into the meeting, I know of a case where a manager in ntl was suspended with full pay whilst they were investigationg his case following a complaint from a junior manager about him. the company kept messing the suspended manager about by cancelling his appointment at the last moment, this happened a few times and I was told that he and his solicitor were on their way to one arranged meeting and it got cancelled. The end result was that ntl made such a big balls up that they paid the guy a claimed 6 figure sum.

The person was boasting about it because he couldn't beleive how stupid the company were by playing right into his hands.

wether the guy deserved his suspension/sacking is not for me to comment.