TiVo : Sky Q and VM answer ?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by steveh

Almost everything decent is already tied up in long-term content deals. I'm sure Sky also like it having Virgin TV customers subscribing to Now TV to get Atlantic as it means they get paid twice for the other channels. Sky added 205,000 new customers in the last quarter - their best growth for a decade - and Now TV customers made up a big chunk of that.

Which is exactly why VM should have Now TV access on their boxes. Yes, we would pay more, and directly to Sky, but those of us with the wherewithal do that anyway. So much better if all of our streaming services were on one box instead of via numerous devices.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

There isn't a lot they can do if Sky wish to keep the channel as an exclusive.

That's true, but it's all smoke and mirrors. Some say that Sky want to keep SA exclusive whereas others say Sky are simply charging too much for the channel.

Who knows what the truth is...

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

In my opinion, VM need to address this as a matter of some urgency if they don't want to haemmorage TV subscribers.

Sky Atlantic is 5 years old. If people were going to leave over it, they would have done long ago.

I have seen anything much worth watching on it, I have no idea why people think its so good.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Sky Atlantic is 5 years old. If people were going to leave over it, they would have done long ago.

That's a pretty complacent attitude to take if true from Virgin.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Sky Atlantic is 5 years old. If people were going to leave over it, they would have done long ago.

I don't agree, spiderplant. You can't have failed to notice how much discontent has been expressed on these forums lately about how we are losing out to Sky on content, with no compensating alternatives available.

As people progressively realise what they've been missing, they will take action to rectify it. I have already taken action by getting Now TV, but it will not take much more for me to jump ship.

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Originally Posted by Paul M

I have seen anything much worth watching on it, I have no idea why people think its so good.

Really?

You don't like dramas, then, presumably.

[toady]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

So much better if all of our streaming services were on one box instead of via numerous devices.

Unless you get a Ruko where you can get all your legal streaming services on a single box

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by toady

Unless you get a Ruko where you can get all your legal streaming services on a single box

But it is additional to a VM box!

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

As people progressively realise what they've been missing, .

If true, VM customers must be a bit thick, 'cause it's taken them five years to realise they were missing Sky Atlantic.

And of course it isn't true, and VM customers aren't thick because they have known for years that Sky has better content, and still chosen VM.

In fact, for a couple of years now, it has been very easy to remedy that situation by adding a Now TV box, meaning that you don't have to move to Sky to get the missing content; now you have a best of both worlds scenario.

Nothings changed recently, content wise, in Sky versus VM. But Sky are about to launch a shiny new box, and suddenly for some the content differences that have been there for years are suddenly relevant.

They're also moaning about a five year old PVR because it doesn't look as good as the forthcoming new Sky box. Of course it won't look as good; five years is a long time in the tech world. But they aren't prepared to wait to see if VM also come out with a new box.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

But it is additional to a VM box!

So what? You can pick up a now TV box for £15, or one with 3 months entertainment pass for £19.

Why depend on a cable box for streaming services which has a five year replacement cycle? That five year cycle means that after a couple of years, it's going to be relatively slow and lack recently launched services compared to low cost streamer boxes that are updated annually.

[nicknewark]

I get my passes on eBay, 3 month pass for £7.50, Im dropping all my VM services in March, mainly due to cost cutting. Moving my phone and BB will save me nearly £60 a month.

[steveh]

You just have to accept that the world has got messy and there is no one box and no one service provider that can provide everything anymore. In time there will be more consolidation but since streaming services entered the market I think overall consumers are in a much better position for choice and price.

[Horizon]

Dish have released their new box, makes even Sky's effort look poor:

http://www.techhive.com/article/3028...annel-dvr.html

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Horizon

Dish have released their new box, makes even Sky's effort look poor:

http://www.techhive.com/article/3028...annel-dvr.html

Brilliant how do we get one ? Oh wait..........

[heavyside]

Originally Posted by Horizon

Dish have released their new box, makes even Sky's effort look poor:

http://www.techhive.com/article/3028...annel-dvr.html

I sense some serious bar-raising going on here.

[Ignitionnet]

These things I don't miss due to watching about an hour of linear TV a fortnight

Interesting how the bar is being raised for sure. Shame the cost bar continues to follow.

[clinteastman]

If you ask me that SkyQ UI already looks outdated! If VM came out with that in 2016 I think I would be unhappy.

Saying that it's still miles better than what VM has at the moment. VM need a new box and a new UI to boot.