28-08-2018, 18:42
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Re: The 5p bag charges...
I have those small and large reusable bags that Tesco & Sainsburys bags in my boot, they also get used on holiday for bits and bobs as well as the first shop.
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28-08-2018, 18:46
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Re: The 5p bag charges...
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Originally Posted by denphone
As l say l am not a expert on these matters Chloe but if their bags have their name on it that is classed as free advertising thus they should not be charging for it.
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I wonder if its the same for Rolex watches too..
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28-08-2018, 19:25
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Re: The 5p bag charges...
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Originally Posted by denphone
As l say l am not a expert on these matters Chloe but if their bags have their name on it that is classed as free advertising thus they should not be charging for it.
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So do you think that all own brand products should also be free then?!
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28-08-2018, 19:26
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Re: The 5p bag charges...
I doubt there is a law saying if they have their name on it they cannot charge.
If you don't want to advertise you can buy canvas bags from charities or whatever but they won't be 10p.
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28-08-2018, 19:35
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Re: The 5p bag charges...
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
Simplest way to nullify advertising is to turn the bag inside out.
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Good idea, i've seen a few people do this.
After seeing the problem of UK landfill sites from the 1950's onwards going into the sea due to coastal erosion and killing sea life I think that it's a good idea.
Lots of clothes, plastics etc that we threw away decades ago are now finding their way into the sea, as are poisonous chemicals from batteries etc.
As time went on, landfill methods improved, but declined again in the 80's when the Thatcher administration forced councils to use the cheapest option for refuse collection and disposal. It was simply cheaper to bury the waste and not recycle it, so that's what the private companies who bid under Compulsary Competitive Tendering did.
Thankfully, the environmental impacts of doing this are now being taken seriously again. Some places are even mining old landfill sites to recycle materials and reclaim precious materials that we are running short of
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28-08-2018, 19:43
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Re: The 5p bag charges...
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Originally Posted by Damien
I doubt there is a law saying if they have their name on it they cannot charge.
If you don't want to advertise you can buy canvas bags from charities or whatever but they won't be 10p.
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There is no such law.
In fact the entire thing originated from this:
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Prime Minister David Cameron doesn’t know much about the law of the land introduced this week regarding charging 5p for carrier bags. Shops cannot charge a customer for a carrier bag if it has the shop name on it. This is because the customer carrying the bag around with them is, in essence, advertising the shop. To bring a change of law the government must mention the charge three times in the House of Lords. Then MPs have to agree and after that, the change of law to charge 5p for every carrier bag will be heard in the Queen’s speech at the opening of Parliament. David Cameron and his Tory party have not only changed the law on carrier bags but they have broken the law. And by doing so the British public should stand up and make the government accountable to us. We are, after all, the voters who pay their wages…
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The origin of which was never traced and was subsequently dismissed as cack.
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28-08-2018, 20:06
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Re: The 5p bag charges...
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Originally Posted by Inactive Digital
I wonder if its the same for Rolex watches too.. 
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That was what made up my mind that Den can't possibly be a woman...what self respecting woman buys a bag, then gets rid of the branding / logo?
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28-08-2018, 21:21
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Re: The 5p bag charges...
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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc
There is no such law.
In fact the entire thing originated from this: The origin of which was never traced and was subsequently dismissed as cack.
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I bet it spread like wildfire on Facebook though.
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28-08-2018, 21:39
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Re: The 5p bag charges...
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Originally Posted by denphone
Oh l don't know my Dad is a retired qualified chef and former Royal Navy technician so as they say in Yorkshire the lad has not done badly for himself. 
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See, at first I was wondering why you posted so much in the "what are you eating" thread and when I thought you were a woman, I thought that you were a little over indulgent.
Now that you explained that you are from Yorkshire, everything makes sense. (The eating / confusion over gender lol...)
(I kid, I kid!!!)
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29-08-2018, 05:17
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Re: The 5p bag charges...
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Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas
See, at first I was wondering why you posted so much in the "what are you eating" thread and when I thought you were a woman, I thought that you were a little over indulgent.
Now that you explained that you are from Yorkshire, everything makes sense. (The eating / confusion over gender lol...)
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Oh Chloe you are getting a fair bit wrong here as first of all l don't actually eat that much as l just like what l like and that sometimes is exotic.
Secondly l have looked in the mirror lately and it does fit the description of a male although sometimes l am accused of acting a bit like a drama queen.
And thirdly My Dad is from Yorkshire and l am from deepest Devon.
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29-08-2018, 17:32
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Re: The 5p bag charges...
I've seen people being charged for bags in almost every shop (and takeaway) I've been in, not just big stores. A nice little earner for the shopkeepers.
Anyway, 5p bags don't exist in most of the big stores anymore.
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29-08-2018, 17:45
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Re: The 5p bag charges...
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Originally Posted by Taf
I've seen people being charged for bags in almost every shop (and takeaway) I've been in, not just big stores. A nice little earner for the shopkeepers.
Anyway, 5p bags don't exist in most of the big stores anymore.
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It's not a nicer earner for the shops at all. It's a tax that goes to the government.
They have to charge for bags.
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29-08-2018, 18:00
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Re: The 5p bag charges...
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Originally Posted by Stephen
It's not a nicer earner for the shops at all. It's a tax that goes to the government.
They have to charge for bags.
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It does actually depend on the size of the shop as to whether it's compulsory (big retailers) or voluntary (smaller ones):
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/carrier-...sponsibilities
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29-08-2018, 18:23
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Re: The 5p bag charges...
Here in Scotland anyway even local small corner shops charge for bags.
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29-08-2018, 19:24
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Re: The 5p bag charges...
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Originally Posted by Stephen
It's not a nicer earner for the shops at all. It's a tax that goes to the government.
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Larger shops are supposed to donate it to charity, after certain costs are removed.
Small shops and takeaways pocket the cash.
"If you’re a small or medium-sized business, you can charge and follow the scheme voluntarily. You don’t have to report or keep records for carrier bag use".
Plus if the shop charges over 5p for a bag, none of it goes to charity. Tada! Big stores now sell them for 10p....
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