TiVo : TiVo Update Coming! 13-24th August - Just got a message on my box

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

I assume you're in a large family then, with a heavily-used, very-full Tivo and don't want your stuff deleting until you've had a chance to watch it.

Which is fair enough

Both my Tivo's are pretty full, but it wouldn't matter how full they were, I would still set a recording to keep until I delete. You get constant feedback of how full the disk is, so when it gets near full, I can go through my recordings and decide which ones are the least important to me and delete those. As far as deletions are concerened, Tivo hasn't a clue as to which ones I would prefer to keep.

[Stephen]

People have to remember, its not VM's designs or defaults but that of TiVo a product that VM licensed and are using on their STBs.

Yea they can and have requested many changes and new additional features but am guessing they will never be able to get things added changed that will funamentally change the basic way that TiVo has always functioned.

I have my main series links set to KUID but there are some other less important things like Quantum Leap and other older shows where there are lots and lots of episodes that I have set to KUSN or only keep up to 10 episodes so that I won't run out of space. My 1Tb is sitting at 85% full and my 500Gb is at 90% just now.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Stephen

People have to remember, its not VM's designs or defaults but that of TiVo a product that VM licensed and are using on their STBs.

Yea they can and have requested many changes and new additional features but am guessing they will never be able to get things added changed that will funamentally change the basic way that TiVo has always functioned.

Stephen, why wasn't the 'Keep Until' setting allowed to be changed?

There was the chance for the complete customisation of recording defaults and not doing that has messed up a feature that could have been brilliant.

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Originally Posted by Stephen

I have my main series links set to KUID but there are some other less important things like Quantum Leap and other older shows where there are lots and lots of episodes that I have set to KUSN or only keep up to 10 episodes so that I won't run out of space. My 1Tb is sitting at 85% full and my 500Gb is at 90% just now.

So, what percentage of your recordings do you set as KUID?

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[Perfect Choice]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

In that case you wouldn't have had a problem with "keep until space needed" either. The difference is only relevant when the disc becomes full.

Exactly, I hit the alert warning around 85% utilisation of my 1TB Tivo, trouble is Tivo works out forward scheduled recordings to work out remaining space as if you were going to keep them all which could be up to 2 weeks of recording in the future, while in practice you tend to watch and delete recordings in the main.

Tends to not be a problem then unless running your HDD at near full. I wonder if you do leave the setting at "keep until space needed", Tivo alerts you it has had to delete an existing recording to complete a future recording and whether it deletes watched recordings first before unwatched. never been there! If this happens you can reciver a deleted recording at least but you need to know it has happened!

But would like to control this all myself so to be alerted Tivo cannot record a future programme due to lack of HDD space so I can take action myself.

[horno46]

Apart from reminders. Is there anything else in the update. Menus all in HD for instance? Do we have a full list of changes. I have no interest in reminders so if that's all there is it ain't much of an update for me

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by passingbat

Stephen, why wasn't the 'Keep Until' setting allowed to be changed?

You can change it. Just not on the defaults.

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Originally Posted by passingbat

As far as deletions are concerened, Tivo hasn't a clue as to which ones I would prefer to keep.

And, as I said, mine has yet to delete anything itself and virtually none of my SLs are set to KUID.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

In that case you wouldn't have had a problem with "keep until space needed" either. The difference is only relevant when the disc becomes full.

But the disks are fairly close to full quite often; given the amount of HD I now record, I don't like them above 85%. I prefer to do my own space management; as I said in another post, I know the recordings that are more important to me than the others; Tivo hasn't got a clue about that. You will never convince me to use "keep until space needed".

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

You can change it. Just not on the defaults.

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How many times Carl? We all know that! but we are discussing the new recording default settings.

[starfish]

Originally Posted by passingbat

Both my Tivo's are pretty full, but it wouldn't matter how full they were, I would still set a recording to keep until I delete. You get constant feedback of how full the disk is, so when it gets near full, I can go through my recordings and decide which ones are the least important to me and delete those. As far as deletions are concerened, Tivo hasn't a clue as to which ones I would prefer to keep.

Same here, although we only have one TiVo. I like to decide what to watch and when.

On another note, just in case I am missing something (don't think I am though). I was really pleased to see the Reminders function on the list of features - yes, I liked it very much on the V+ and I have missed it. Of course, I should have known it would not be as straightforward as that. As I understand it, I cannot use Reminders without recording the programme as well - well, that's just bloody useless. When I record a show, it's for watching it later and I don't need to be reminded. Were I to use a reminder, it would be for watching the show live so that I wouldn't forget, if busy, and if I were late I could rewind to the beginning.

Oh well, maybe there is a technical reason why it can't be done separately.

[carlwaring]

I just switched on my Tivo and found that it had updated itself overnight.

It also took me less than 30 seconds to discover that I could indeed have my preferred default padding of -1/+1 or even 0/+1 if I wanted.

It is weird that you can't add more than 5 mins padding in total.

[harry_hitch]

Originally Posted by How many times Carl? [I

We all know that![/I] but we are discussing the new recording default settings.

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by starfish

As I understand it, I cannot use Reminders without recording the programme as well - well, that's just bloody useless. When I record a show, it's for watching it later and I don't need to be reminded. Were I to use a reminder, it would be for watching the show live so that I wouldn't forget, if busy, and if I were late I could rewind to the beginning.

Because you still need a tuner for watching whatever it is anyway, why not record it "just in case".

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

But it also demonstrates rather nicely why the reminder function is simply not required at all

[harry_hitch]

Originally Posted by starfish

Same here, although we only have one TiVo. I like to decide what to watch and when.

On another note, just in case I am missing something (don't think I am though). I was really pleased to see the Reminders function on the list of features - yes, I liked it very much on the V+ and I have missed it. Of course, I should have known it would not be as straightforward as that. As I understand it, I cannot use Reminders without recording the programme as well - well, that's just bloody useless. When I record a show, it's for watching it later and I don't need to be reminded. Were I to use a reminder, it would be for watching the show live so that I wouldn't forget, if busy, and if I were late I could rewind to the beginning.

Oh well, maybe there is a technical reason why it can't be done separately.

I did notice when playing about with reminders, that when the message comes up on the screen it gives you the option to cancel the recording! It also gives you all the relevant info so you can simply change the channel. Its not the easiest way of doing it, but you can at least cancel the recording and watch it live too.:-/

[starfish]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

Because you still need a tuner for watching whatever it is anyway, why not record it "just in case".

Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

But it also demonstrates rather nicely why the reminder function is simply not required at all

Since the hard drive is always almost full, this will either prevent scheduled programmes from recording or I will get a message that a reminder can't be set because the hard drive is full. No lectures about freeing some space, please.

[passingbat]

Just seen this posted by Mark Wilkin Help & Support Forum Manager on the Tivo forums

Global settings – You can now set default recording options for new single recordings, Series Links, and WishLists

Did he leave the word 'some' out or did he think you could change them all?

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...n/td-p/1357580

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by passingbat

Did he leave the word 'some' out or did he think you could change them all?

Seems like a perfectly understandable to me. Any new recordings will conform to the set defaults unless changed manually.

Where's the problem?