Diane Abbott apologises in 'race' row

[Cobbydaler]

Originally Posted by Russ

What the hell does 'smh' mean?!

Shaking my head...

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Russ

What the hell does 'smh' mean?!

It's either 'web' slang for 'shaking my head' or 'Sydney Morning Herald'. Leave you to guess which....

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Originally Posted by Pierre

what about black privilege?

No such thing. Us evil white people have seen to that. You really should know that by now....

It's odd how some people who've been so badly affected by and are so critical of racial stereotyping don't mind emulating it when it suits.

I'm still waiting for the Dobson analogy to be explained away.........

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by kingll

And there we have the great go to white quote black person chip on their shoulder smh

Thanks mate.

[mod edit - Could easily be misinterpreted. Removed]

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Osem

No such thing. Us evil white people have seen to that. You really should know that by now....

Thing that strikes me, and I may veering here, is that many of the black (and White) Kids that try to be all "gangstaaaaa....bro" actually have decent hard working families that are trying to get on in life. Init.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by kingll

I don't agree with your initial statement, I have different take on divide and rule.

You know and I know she will not have been fired for that tweet, no matter how the media try to drum this story up.

This is a story where the white folks can say - oh see those ..... (any slur will do) can say whatever they want and there is no punishment. However, if we say it, we would get the sack.

Really, really - I have seen and read transcripts of cases were white folk have said and done some deplorable acts and have kept there jobs.

Of course you have...Any links?

Where did i state that white people are murders???

Don't take my words out of context

I don't think you did, directly. However, you stated

Oh white people of today are so so different from white people of yesterday year cough Gary Dobson cough David Norris. I could go on but that divide and rule

This could be taken that you are inferring that all white people are like those two ****..

I personally take the above statement to mean you are either assuming all white people are like that (grouping a race like that based purely on their colour is the very definition of racism) or you are trolling..

[kingll]

Originally Posted by Pierre

She's an idiot, a black idiot. There are plenty of black and White idiots around.

What's even worse is that she's a politician, so she's a black-idiot-politician. We should really feel sorry for her.

She's a black idiot politician that also likes to flash the race card whenever it suits, even though she pretends to be a socialist but sends her kids to private schools etc.

She embodies everything that was bad about New Labour.

Ideally I would like her to just disappear and lose her seat at the next election.

now now tut tut no need for that language.

Do you refer to any politician by there colour generally???? so why do so now

Diane won by 54.9 per cent of the vote cast, I can't see her losing her seat or her being deselected.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Stuart

Of course you have...Any links?


I don't think you did, directly. However, you stated


This could be taken that you are inferring that all white people are like those two ****..

I personally take the above statement to mean you are either assuming all white people are like that (grouping a race like that based purely on their colour is the very definition of racism) or you are trolling..

Yeah, Ron Atkinson. I mean, he got away scot free didn't he? John Terry isn't being prosecuted and Suarez hasn't been banned either. It's a terrible white conspiracy you know.....

[kingll]

Originally Posted by Pierre

what about black privilege?

find me black privilege in this country - it'll be a long wait

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by kingll

Do you refer to any politician by there colour generally???? so why do so now

She started it.

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Originally Posted by kingll

find me black privilege in this country - it'll be a long wait

Diane Abbott for one, there didn't have to wait long

[Osem]

Originally Posted by kingll

now now tut tut no need for that language.

Do you refer to any politician by there colour generally???? so why do so nowDiane won by 54.9 per cent of the vote cast, I can't see her losing her seat or her being deselected.

Ermm..... How about because the whole thread is about a black politician stereotyping white people in a manner that she'd whine about if it were done in reverse???

Still waiting to hear about the relevance of your reference to Dobson et al btw.........

[kingll]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Thing that strikes me, and I may veering here, is that many of the black (and White) Kids that try to be all "gangstaaaaa....bro" actually have decent hard working families that are trying to get on in life. Init.

And that has what to do with Diane Abbott - i have to say your stereotypes are quite sweet

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by kingll

And that has what to do with Diane Abbott - i have to say your stereotypes are quite sweet

it's in relation to the "privilege" comment that "you" made.

Do try and keep up.

[kingll]

Originally Posted by Stuart

Of course you have...Any links?



I don't think you did, directly. However, you stated


This could be taken that you are inferring that all white people are like those two ****..

I personally take the above statement to mean you are either assuming all white people are like that (grouping a race like that based purely on their colour is the very definition of racism) or you are trolling..

However, that's not what i meant as well you know - sensitive lot of people here.

Oh if I was trolling... trust me I'd say controversial things, which is not what I'm doing.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

She started it.

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Diane Abbott for one, there didn't have to wait long

Where is her privilege..... your reaching sir

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by kingll

Where is her privilege..... your reaching sir

she has a very privileged lifestyle, she is an MP and has the lifestyle associated with that.

Her kids are also privileged, they are middle class and attend private schools.

Do you want me to reach some more?

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Big brothers on, will return to this when my iPhones charged up

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

This thread has demonstrated perfectly the main problem with race in the UK and the level of sensitivity much of it in my mind overly sensitive. As a white person (i hate labelling myself that way i am just another imperfect human being like 6 billion others) i never know what the correct terminology is from one year to the damn next. Once upon a time you couldn't or were ill advised to say black as you were somehow singling them out but now trying to be sensitve and using the generic term "coloured" gets you into trouble as well it really is pathetic.

Well said. I myself recall being brought to book trying to be sensitive by using the term 'coloured' recently.

If it is that much of a problem to use that term, maybe a list should be published of what term we should use for what race / shade etc?

I mean, surely 'coloured' is a one size fits all?

/Can of worms.