80mph speed limit 'would increase deaths by 20%' - Page 8

01-01-2012, 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Well you have been doing all the way through this thread......unless of course you think you are a superhuman driver, and it doesn't apply to you.

there is a useful funtion to the left called "BS detector/ignore button" very handy for weeding out numpties

Tim Deegan · 01-01-2012, 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r

IMHO just because somebody has a bit of paper that say they have done advanced driving doesn't mean thay are better than somebody who hasn't.

I looked into doing this but the cost to do it and the price my car insurance would fall was a joke.

The advanced driving course teaches defensive driving, and awareness. This should make you a safer and more curtious driver, not a more skilled driver, but in theory still better than those who haven't had the training.

The course we were talking about wasn't anything to do with the advanced driving test, it is way above that level. It was aimed at Pierre who thinks he has superhuman driving skills. So I asked if he was trained to drive safely at high speeds, as emergency service drivers are (although they still wouldn't be able to do this safely without means to warn other road users).

---------- Post added at 18:34 ---------- Previous post was at 18:27 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

In all due respect when there is fog etc. people are probably going slower than 80mph due to the weather. Especially when there is ice. If there is carnage even going at 60mph you in trouble.

Why not use germany as an example of how dangerous it is?

Fog is an excellent example. If we all drove at a speed suitable for the road conditions, then we should all be doing the same speed, and a safe stopping distance apart.

Accidents usually happen in fog when one person is driving at a safe speed for the conditions, and another is driving far too fast, and therefore drives into the back of the car in front.

---------- Post added at 18:37 ---------- Previous post was at 18:34 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre

you're priceless

turn on your sarcasm detector

It's obvious that you didn't understand their post. And that because you think you are invincible, and a far better driver than anyone else on the road, then you didn't even think the post applied to you.

You don't drive a BMW or an Audi by any chance?

Pierre · 01-01-2012, 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

It was aimed at Pierre who thinks he has superhuman driving skills

Please quote anywhere in this thread where I have stated this?

Please?

Quote:

It's obvious that you didn't understand their post.

on the contrary it is you that seems to be changing their mind which ever way the wind blows

Quote:

And that because you think you are invincible,

Again please direct me to the post where I stated this.

Quote:

and a far better driver than anyone else on the road,

Again please direct me to the post where I stated this

Quote:

You don't drive a BMW or an Audi by any chance?

No, do you?

I'm my own worst enemy, I shouldn't have come back to this thread, but when people name you directly, I have no choice.

Tim, if your discussion technique involves making up comments other users are supposed to have said, Inventing fictional scenarios that don't apply, introducing straw man points and just being a plane imbecile.

Then congratulations, you're very good at it.

goodnight.

Gary L · 01-01-2012, 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre

on the contrary it is you that seems to be changing their mind which ever way the wind blows.

I had noticed.

Tim Deegan · 02-01-2012, 01:08

Just stop trolling, both of you. It's getting boring now.

Pierre · 02-01-2012, 07:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Just stop trolling, both of you. It's getting boring now.

No trolling here sir,

I refer you back to my previous post.

Feel free to report any of my posts to a moderator

Gary L · 02-01-2012, 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Just stop trolling, both of you. It's getting boring now.

I don't troll.
I think you're just getting confused with your conflicting opinions

Derek · 02-01-2012, 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

So I asked if he was trained to drive safely at high speeds, as emergency service drivers are (although they still wouldn't be able to do this safely without means to warn other road users).

I should point out there are quite a few reasons when the Police and other agencies can, and do, drive at well in excess of the speed limits without warning equipment in activation.

**Chris** · 02-01-2012, 13:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Deegan

Just stop trolling, both of you. It's getting boring now.

The only thing getting boring around here is you stamping all over the place with your fingers in your ears and refusing to listen to any voice bar your own.

Anyone who has been around here any length of time and has bothered to actually read what other posters have to say can see that Pierre and Gary are simply posting their views. What they are saying, and the way they are saying it, is entirely consistent with their usual forum behaviour.

If you really can't tolerate that, may I suggest you make use of the forum ignore feature.

Either way, please stop accusing people of trolling. It's really very unhelpful.

Tim Deegan · 02-01-2012, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek

I should point out there are quite a few reasons when the Police and other agencies can, and do, drive at well in excess of the speed limits without warning equipment in activation.

Yes I know that, but it isn't as safe to do so, and they have to risk assess it first. Also if they are involved in an accident, they will have to be able to give a very convincing reason, as to why they weren't using them.

---------- Post added at 12:15 ---------- Previous post was at 12:12 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

The only thing getting boring around here is you stamping all over the place with your fingers in your ears and refusing to listen to any voice bar your own.

Anyone who has been around here any length of time and has bothered to actually read what other posters have to say can see that Pierre and Gary are simply posting their views. What they are saying, and the way they are saying it, is entirely consistent with their usual forum behaviour.

If you really can't tolerate that, may I suggest you make use of the forum ignore feature.

Either way, please stop accusing people of trolling. It's really very unhelpful.

Yes I know.

However I would also appreciate it isf you didn't start being insulting, by saying that I don't listen to other views. I do listen, but there are some people in these forums who will say "black is white" just to argue.

**Hugh** · 02-01-2012, 13:21

Don't you see the irony in stating someone is insulting you if they say you don't listen to other views.....

Tim Deegan · 02-01-2012, 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh

Don't you see the irony in stating someone is insulting you if they say you don't listen to other views.....

It's nothing to do with going against my views. I'm quite happy to debate. However there are people in many forums who will just argue in order to wind people up. So they will come out with extremely contoversial views. Then there are the people (like yourself), who like to twist peoples words around to try and make them mean something completely different. These methods aren't friendly debating, they are deliberately designed to wind people up.

**Hugh** · 02-01-2012, 13:54

And there is being dogmatic and obstreperous, and not recognising it....

One of the point of forums is for people of differing views to discuss things, hopefully being informed by the different views - none of us have all the answers, and whilst I agree with you on a number of occasions, I have to admit your tone of posting can be somewhat aggressive (you may regard this as being passionate, but perception is all).

For instance, you constantly state that I twist your words - I prefer to think I am pointing out your inconsistencies (but, as I said above, perception is all).

Tim Deegan · 02-01-2012, 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh

And there is being dogmatic and obstreperous, and not recognising it....

One of the point of forums is for people of differing views to discuss things, hopefully being informed by the different views - none of us have all the answers, and whilst I agree with you on a number of occasions, I have to admit your tone of posting can be somewhat aggressive (you may regard this as being passionate, but perception is all).

For instance, you constantly state that I twist your words - I prefer to think I am pointing out your inconsistencies (but, as I said above, perception is all).

I am passionate about people not being ignorant enough to put other peoples lives at risk. After all I have to deal with the results. And that was what the discussion is about....end of story!!!!

Wayfair · 02-01-2012, 14:51

Yeah fools..

Tim said end of, so that's it, no more to see here, move along..