Gay couple claim they were ejected from pub for kissing

[handyman]

I can't imagine what things will be like in ten - twenty years time. Someone who owns and runs a bar surely has the right to accept into and serve who he wants to. There's no monopoly, there must be a dozen+ bars/pubs in every town in the UK.

Whats normal for Gay people is not whats normal for the majority of the public. There's people born as Siamese twins and for them that's normal life. It does not make it something we should aim for more of now does it?

Evolution strives to make species reproduce better and facts are facts, 2 blokes does not make a baby..

Originally Posted by Damien

No I wasn't. I said "If it is true". I didn't accuse the pub owner of being a homophobe anywhere.

I must admit, where you said 'if this is true' I thought the natural reading of it was 'if the report is true', not 'if the suggestion that the landlord's motivation was discriminatory is true'.

It has certainly seemed to me as if you have assumed this is a case of discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation.

[handyman]

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey

Yes, those special lesbians in films, that just require a real man to cure them (or so I've heard - I wouldn't know anything about those films)

Totally love your posts Mr Monkey...

Originally Posted by handyman

I can't imagine what things will be like in ten - twenty years time. Someone who owns and runs a bar surely has the right to accept into and serve who he wants to. There's no monopoly, there must be a dozen+ bars/pubs in every town in the UK.

Whats normal for Gay people is not whats normal for the majority of the public. There's people born as Siamese twins and for them that's normal life. It does not make it something we should aim for more of now does it?

Evolution strives to make species reproduce better and facts are facts, 2 blokes does not make a baby..

The Labour Party disagrees with you. Their Equality Act is one of the most badly-named pieces of legislation of all time because it cannot possibly create equality. All it can do is legislate for one lifestyle or belief system to have precedence over another ... and give professional whingers like Peter Tatchell - and those in his sphere of influence - reason to assume that whenever someone tells them to stop doing something, or chooses not to engage with them in something, it must be because they're a raging homophobe.

Honestly, Jeremy Vine had the complainant on his show on BBC Radio 2 this lunchtime and it was outrageous. He plainly assumed the whole thing to be a case of homophobia, yet couldn't offer anything to support that assumption when challenged (albeit very gently) by Vine.

Then they had some mouth-frothing bloke on, who edits a homosexual newspaper, and his whole thesis was that the landlord's alleged use of the word 'obscene' is sufficient to prove homophobia because 'nobody would use that word if it was a man and a woman'.

I thought you had to go to Northern Ireland to find such a finely-honed sense of grievance until all this blew up.

[handyman]

Originally Posted by Chris

The Labour Party disagrees with you.

On this and many issues, that is why I did not vote for them :-)

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by Zing

I do not understand how a bi sexual can be considered gay seems odd to me

Gay to most people is anyone who participates in sexual activities or has an attraction for the same sex. So Bi-sexual will get counted as Gay and if you speak to a lay person in the street about what sexual activities are as soon as they hear that a man sleeps with a man (even if he also sleeps with women) he's still gay.

Hence they tend to lump the figures onto one.. and LGB tends to be together as a group

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

You are assuming that all rules are created equal and based on the same requirements..

If it were purely on Numbers then the 189,100 (2009) abortions in the UK would never have happened as the Catholic population outweighs that number..

Figures are not everything and not everything is based on figures.. Instead we tend to base a lot of rules on human rights, like the right adopt a child even no matter what your sexual preference is, the right to show affection to a partner and the right not to have someone accuse you of being a pervert for innocently doing so (had that one shouted at me a few times)

and you're assuming I give a toss about peoples religion or human rights with regard to this issue, the only rights I care about are those kids and young people no longer actually being adopted. I am sure there are an awful lot of people fawning all over Harman telling her what a good job she did, I'd like to see her explain it to a kid that had a bleak childhood and an even bleaker future because of her and the government she was part of's failure to find a compromise.

[Kymmy]

Yet you used a regligious context for your viewpoint.. You can't have it both ways ..or do you

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Yet you used a regligious context for your viewpoint.. You can't have it both ways ..or do you

Err no I didn't, how else could the subject of the agencies be raised without mentioning they are Catholic, I even clarified my position in reply to Hugh.

You seem to have missed the point, the reason I mentioned the adoption agencies wasn't because they were a minority (although that might have been the reason why they worked the way they did) but because of the impact it'll have on the most hard to place kids lives, those agencies placed more teenagers than any other organisation I belive.

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

considering the the impact it had on Catholic adoption agencies for example

[peanut]

Sometimes I wonder who is more tolerant, the homophobic (I never did like that word as it's meaning is too wide), or the gays themselves.

Mountains out of molehills springs to my mind, but who will make the biggest mountain out of it? Well that's obvious.

[Kymmy]

I think both gay and hetro groups have their idiots who believe that their lifestyle is how everyone should be and they show great intolerance for anyone different. It's not though unique to those simple definitions as there's also a lot of gay infighting.. (just like any groups)

[the_neurotic_cat]

Gays should be allowed the same freedom of expression that straights have.

I love the fuss that's been made over those guys being asked to leave because they kissed. Sexuality by its very nature is a social thing, the idea that homosexuals should somehow 'keep it to themselves' is absurd. Straights can't manage it so why should gays. Planting one on your lover in a pub perfectly appropriate.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Tuftus

And your point is

That everybody is biased

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Originally Posted by Pierre

they would have to be two fit 6" blonde scandanavian lesbians.

How tall are you then?

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Gay to most people is anyone who participates in sexual activities or has an attraction for the same sex. So Bi-sexual will get counted as Gay and if you speak to a lay person in the street about what sexual activities are as soon as they hear that a man sleeps with a man (even if he also sleeps with women) he's still gay.

Hence they tend to lump the figures onto one.. and LGB tends to be together as a group

ok then but there are 3 distinct groups which are different. Homosexual bisexual and heterosexual. If 2 groups are classed as gay then ok but surely a bisexual woman or man is only part time gay because a heterosexual isnt classed as gay so when the bi sexual is having sex with someone of the opposite sex they are not being gay at that time lol

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Originally Posted by Gary L

That everybody is biased

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How tall are you then?

you do all realise " is the symbol for inch not foot? you have been discussing 6 inch lesbians lmao