Are Police to Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup ? - Page 8

Derek · 21-05-2010, 21:58

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Originally Posted by PeteL

where i live (oldham) the local council HAS BANNED (been in our local paper) people from wearing england tops at any of the pubs in the town centre because of violence (it aint happened yet how do they know?)

*sigh*

Any chance of a link? I wasn't aware councils could act as judge, jury and executioner and impose their own rules.

Russ · 21-05-2010, 21:58

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Originally Posted by PeteL

where i live (oldham) the local council HAS BANNED (been in our local paper) people from wearing england tops at any of the pubs in the town centre because of violence (it aint happened yet how do they know?)

Do you have a link for that?

TheDon · 21-05-2010, 22:01

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Originally Posted by Matt D

"England flag police crackdown rumour 'nonsense' "

I notice how you've snipped out are the bit that says exactly what the OP says?

That being:

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"Metropolitan Police issued advice to pubs in Croydon suggesting "dress code restrictions - eg, no football shirts"."

This is the very advice that people in this thread were claiming hadn't been given, and wouldn't be given. Yet here it is proved that the advice that started this rumour WAS GIVEN.

So what I said earlier in the thread is true, it's not a ban, but it's "advice" with a clear undertone which implies pubs that don't impose restrictions will be dealt with more harshly if any trouble arises than those that do.

Russ · 21-05-2010, 22:03

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Originally Posted by TheDon

So what I said earlier in the thread is true, it's not a ban, but it's "advice" with a clear undertone which implies pubs that don't impose restrictions will be dealt with more harshly if any trouble arises than those that do.

Conjecture.

Derek · 21-05-2010, 22:04

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Originally Posted by TheDon

Yet here it is proved that the advice that started this rumour WAS GIVEN.

Yes they gave advice just as they give out advice on countless other things all the time. It doesn't mean they take the landlord into a darkened room and menacing tell them if they don't ban the wearing of England tops they'll send the boys round and smash up the place.

It's advice, nothing more, nothing less. The Police cannot enforce a ban on the wearing of football tops. End of story.

PeteLockwood · 21-05-2010, 22:07

no link, as i said it was in the local paper

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http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/ne...orld-cup-dream

this is not solely about that this contradicts what the same paper (oldham chron) printed http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/ne...orld-cup-dream (it was printed before it cam to light about the 74 year old woman)

Derek · 21-05-2010, 22:09

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Originally Posted by PeteL

no link, as i said it was in the local paper

Hmmmm, I smell bovine excrement.

The councils cannot just make up laws as they go along. If they imposed a ban there would be no way to enforce it.

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And from that very link.

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Supt Leor Giladi, of Greater Manchester Police said: “GMP has not imposed any restrictions in relation to people wearing England shirts, or flying the England flag.”

PeteLockwood · 21-05-2010, 22:10

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Originally Posted by Derek S

Hmmmm, I smell bovine excrement.

The councils cannot just make up laws as they go along. If they imposed a ban there would be no way to enforce it.

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And from that very link.

like i said the printed article contradicted this it WAS printed before the 74 year old woman and her flag....

Russ · 21-05-2010, 22:13

This whole 'persecuted for being English' stuff has never washed with me.

**Hugh** · 21-05-2010, 22:14

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Originally Posted by Russ

This whole 'persecuted for being English' stuff has never washed with me.

You so funny.....

punky · 21-05-2010, 22:15

Even taxis (who aren't allowed to display flags ordinarily) are allowed to display flags

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...d-cup-stars.do

Tezcatlipoca · 21-05-2010, 22:47

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Originally Posted by TheDon

I notice how you've snipped out are the bit that says exactly what the OP says?

This is the very advice that people in this thread were claiming hadn't been given, and wouldn't be given. Yet here it is proved that the advice that started this rumour WAS GIVEN.

So what I said earlier in the thread is true, it's not a ban, but it's "advice" with a clear undertone which implies pubs that don't impose restrictions will be dealt with more harshly if any trouble arises than those that do.

Snipped so that I wasn't copying & pasting an entire article. I pasted the bits relevant to the thread: namely, that the wearing of England shirts in pubs during the World Cup has not been banned.

I do not believe anyone denied that there had been "advice" or "guidance" given... the issue was the false claim that the police had actually "banned" the wearing of England shirts in pubs during the World Cup.

papa smurf · 22-05-2010, 06:55

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Originally Posted by Russ

This whole 'persecuted for being English' stuff has never washed with me.

sadly geography has dictated you'll never know

22-05-2010, 07:03

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Originally Posted by BBKing

No.

To save me from reading five pages of mouthbreathing windowlickers claiming this is the end of civilisation, have we got to the stage of establishing that this is all made up as usual?

Yep! You can breath again - move along - nothing to see here...

Russ · 22-05-2010, 07:15

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

sadly geography has dictated you'll never know

Well I've been more or less living in Leicester for the last 9 months and I see England (not British) flags everywhere. In the last few weeks (in the run-up to the World Cup) there's been a massive growth in the number of St George's flags about the place. I don't see anyone being stopped supporting England.