Will the Tories do Murdoch's bidding and kill off the BBC?

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Which brings us full circle.

I love it when that happens. Makes my job easier.

The BBC is at risk if a Tory government is elected.

I don't think it is at risk of destruction. It may be required to scale back its operations, but the BBC already acknowledges that some of its TV output may no longer be justifiable once digital switchover is complete, seeing as it was designed to drive digital take-up in the first place. BBC Three looks vulnerable, for example, as it is the most readily comparable to successful commercial alternatives like e4.

And, personally, I wouldn't believe any Labour politician who claims to know what the Tories 'plans' for the BBC are, just because they happened to tune in to the latest frothings of rent-a-quote fringe nutters like Daniel Hannan.

Comparing the bbc to essential social services such as health, education, policing and benefits is just stupid take those away and the country quickly crumbles and we would all have bugger all. If the bbc disappeared tomorrow the country would still function perfectly well and all that would probably happen is more people finding out that actually the type of programs they enjoyed on the bbc are on plenty of other channels and in some cases better quality of those programs.

Really comparing the two is a desperate tactic by some supporters and simply isn't a valid comparison. As for you flyboy is this another thread where your going into anti tory fever as you do quite often. Your beloved labour party are on the way out and hopefully for a very long time and after everything they have done they truly deserve it.

Cameron has done no more then blair did before him and they all cosy upto whoever they think they have too in the runup to an election murdoch is of course someone to cosy upto given his media interests blair saw that and funnily enough it was ok for blair to do it but cameron does it oh my god it has to mean an imminent attack on the bbc how stupid.

Everything has to change and evolve and the bbc has had a lot of good years where it hasn't really had too but now the tide is turning and a lot of people find no problem in expressing their dissatisfaction with both the licence and the bbc.

Call me selfish if you want but i am all for choice in life as much as you can and the fact that we have no choice at all in regard to the bbc or our money going to it to me is wrong.

maybe i am misunderstanding the article in the guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...olicy-exchange

but it says that the tories would want to abolish the BBC trust and replace it with a new body made up of people appointed by the government they would also be responsible for channel 4 it would be called the psc and would oversee the BBC and channel 4 .It doesn't however say that the BBC itself should be abolished nor the licence fee
If i have got this wrong then clarification would be appreciated

May i, as one who couldnt care one iota who wins the next election just make a comment lets shoot all the tory idiots its all self self self i have never met a tory voter yet who i wouldn't love to kick straiight in the throat . Its time for a change though its just a shame that so many people think the sun is going to shine out of the multi millionaire camerons backside if that scheming policy on a stick manages to lie himself in.

Originally Posted by bjorkiii

May i, as one who couldnt care one iota who wins the next election just make a comment lets shoot all the tory idiots its all self self self i have never met a tory voter yet who i wouldn't love to kick straiight in the throat . Its time for a change though its just a shame that so many people think the sun is going to shine out of the multi millionaire camerons backside if that scheming policy on a stick manages to lie himself in.

you show a strange way of not caring who wins the next election

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Comparing the bbc to essential social services such as health, education, policing and benefits is just stupid take those away and the country quickly crumbles and we would all have bugger all. If the bbc disappeared tomorrow the country would still function perfectly well and all that would probably happen is more people finding out that actually the type of programs they enjoyed on the bbc are on plenty of other channels and in some cases better quality of those programs. .

If the BBC disappeared tomorrow we would lose a towering pillar of our culture. Nations are more than an army and a bunch of people living on a patch of land. Culture is a very important part of a civilization, it helps it progression, it's influence and respect amongst other nations and so on. So tax revenue is used to promote our culture. Just because you may not visit an art museum (I don't) doesn't mean it's not important and just as you don't watch the BBC doesn't mean it's not important.

National History = Best in the world
Documentaries = One of the Best in the World
BBC World Service = You can dismiss it all you like, it's respected world wide. Especially impoverished counties with little or no news organizations (or no free press).
Music = From BBC radio to BBC One. A lot of British acts get platforms they would not get on other channels.

The BBC is part of our culture, part of out history. It's a shame to lose it because people can watch Ross Kemp sort out some gangs on Sky 1.

Originally Posted by Damien

If the BBC disappeared tomorrow we would lose a towering pillar of our culture. Nations are more than an army and a bunch of people living on a patch of land. Culture is a very important part of a civilization, it helps it progression, it's influence and respect amongst other nations and so on. So tax revenue is used to promote our culture. Just because you may not visit an art museum (I don't) doesn't mean it's not important and just as you don't watch the BBC doesn't mean it's not important.

National History = Best in the world
Documentaries = One of the Best in the World
BBC World Service = You can dismiss it all you like, it's respected world wide. Especially impoverished counties with little or no news organizations (or no free press).
Music = From BBC radio to BBC One. A lot of British acts get platforms they would not get on other channels.

The BBC is part of our culture, part of out history. It's a shame to lose it because people can watch Ross Kemp sort out some gangs on Sky 1.

Jeeze Damien to think I can forgo the pleasure of the BBC's Being Human to watch Kemp go play at soldiers in Afghanistan.Something real journalists have been doing for the past 9 years and got little recognition for.

Originally Posted by bjorkiii

May i, as one who couldnt care one iota who wins the next election just make a comment lets shoot all the tory idiots its all self self self i have never met a tory voter yet who i wouldn't love to kick straiight in the throat . Its time for a change though its just a shame that so many people think the sun is going to shine out of the multi millionaire camerons backside if that scheming policy on a stick manages to lie himself in.

So you want to shoot / kick in the throat the 4.2 million people who voted Conservative in the Euro elections, or is it the 8.8 million who voted Conservative in the 2005 UK elections?

Ah, the voice of reason.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by bjorkiii

who i wouldn't love to kick straiight in the throat . .

You could try, But you would fail just like the Labour party

Most people find the BNP a despicable group of bigots in my eyes they arent much different from the conservative party.Ooh best keep on topic this isnt correct thread

[ArronC07]

It seems to me that the central plank of the argument against the BBC from those on this thread who are against it is that it doesn't produce stuff they want to watch or it produces stuff they don't like and therefore it should be got rid of.

I think my original statement about selfish intent was correct after all.

Originally Posted by ArronC07

It seems to me that the central plank of the argument against the BBC from those on this thread who are against it is that it doesn't produce stuff they want to watch or it produces stuff they don't like and therefore it should be got rid of.

I think my original statement about selfish intent was correct after all.

I don't believe ANYONE when they say they don't watch ANY BBC programmes.I'm sure they do but they don't like paying the licence fee and so can't admit that there are some programmes they do watch.

Originally Posted by ArronC07

It seems to me that the central plank of the argument against the BBC from those on this thread who are against it is that it doesn't produce stuff they want to watch or it produces stuff they don't like and therefore it should be got rid of.

I think my original statement about selfish intent was correct after all.

no ,i think it is the imposed fee that upsets most and the fact we have absolutely no chance of having a say either way , i have seen some compelling arguments on both sides of the licence fee coin but for me the most compelling is that it is now 2010 and with all the pay per view options available then there must be a better option for the BBC than taking 100% of a tax on tv's and 100% of all revenue from the world sevice totaling god knows how much but i bet it's a lot more than channel 4,5 and itv put together so if we don't have a choice about wether to have a BBC or not i would demand a first rate programming service from them and nothing less

[Pbryanw]

The fact that Rupert Murdoch hates the BBC, suggests it's not as bad as everyone makes out. In fact anything that thwarts Murdoch's plans for world domination, is good in my eyes. Plus, Doctor Who is on the BBC, which justifies my licence fee. And not to forget classics like the Office or Extras - not all BBC sitcoms are rubbish .

It's the price of a bag of crisps each per day - OMG!